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Thursday, March 16, 2006

Grabbing what they can...

I've received another mail today at 3/16/2006 7:10 PM from a guy.

It seems his brother has joined and well, and his brother's up-line
seems to be dragging his family in too... Read on..
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Hi

Great site, I really wish this lampe berger will be delisted from
Malaysian companies.

My brother just recently joined, paid RM 2345. Of course as a bro,
I am pissed, but I say,..well he’s na├»ve…seems like trusting those guys

Who drive big cars, and show off….anyway, I think that’s the end
of my trouble…but no…those buggers upline still want to drag my
rest of the family into it..

Isnt’ it obvious…they have outsize the network….the suckers who joined
above just need to get people lower. My dad just retired, and of course
got KWSP money…

Luckily my dad and mom are still sensible enuff, to understand that 30k
is not a little sum of money….

This is not just a scam, it’s destroying our young people minds too…

To take action against these people will be the best course…
Maybe raise a complaint with Pengguna…or sth like that.

Steven Yip
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What made this person so angry towards Lampe Berger?
Did Lampe Berger did something wrong to him...
We never know.. To my view, it must be how they (LB) peeps talk
people into the business... I shall not speculate further but more facts later..

Steven also asked me to send an e-mail to the HQ of Lampe Berger.
Hmm... why not? Will try this method later.

Please leave comments.
I'm too tired of all this already...



17 comments:

for the people! said...

Why can DHCL use some other marketing methods like retailing to retail shops instead? therefore, the products are much cheaper that way! Say no to MLM!

rage said...

cheaper aaa? from what basis do you form your statement?

Lampe Berger Help said...

It will never be cheaper my friend..
Never..

Say yes to MLM..

But say no to LB Distributors who is not honest and does MLM without ethics..

remained said...

LB used to be retail in Taiwan and Hongkong for 2 years.

didn't make money.but lose a lot of money.after convert to mlm, make money like crazy

listen to what i said...

http://mlmg.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=95950

Steven Yip said...

It's me again, just another 2 cents:

I think anyone who joined LB will eventually be pressured to cough up 30k.

Why? Coz my own brother...still insist want to get 30k from my dad.

I asked, why not start from bottom (franchise) but he replied, everyone's going for 30k, even his college frens( funded by father/mother/relatives). And plus, it takes very long to go up (125) under you.

I have heard other commentators saying, it's the PEOPLE problem, it's not the COMPANY.

Well, let me put it clear. People works towards the best motivating factor. And DCHL has put this kind of system (cut count) inside it, knowingly that it fill "fish" a lot of people in, creating a culture that will pressure others to join into the bandwagon.

So, isn't it obvious, that the COMPANY is to be blamed?

So, a huge blame is on the company for creating this system. People and the culture in a company is definitely affected by how it's run.

Just my 2 cents.

crazysocket said...

lai lai.. support me too....
http://virgiesphere.blogspot.com/

Steven Yip said...

Oh ya,

I started a new blog.

http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com/

The title says enuff.

DKSG said...

The basis for MLM is for you to sell to people you know ... people who trust that your judgement is true ...

How can you earn money from people who trust you ?

MLM is asking you to sell your friendship ... which is priceless for a meagre amount...

If someone MLM to me ... I will write off the friendship ... because they have already written off mine ... in true friendship/kinship ... you recommend a product ... and DONT EARN A SINGLE CENT from your friends and relatives ...

MLM is breaking down the fibre of the society ... it teaches people that ... "as long as there are someone who trusts you ... cream them off ..." ...

Think again ... If you sell health product to you Mum/Dad ... they buy and you collect a commission from there ... is this ethical ? Unless you return all the commission you earn to them to reduce the total price ... otherwise ... I would drown my kids if I know they turn out to be like that ...

MLM encourage people to "Chi(1) Li(3) Pa(2) Wai(4)" ... eat from inside and crawl outside ... give u money to betray the trust of your family and friends ...

Think again guys !

Lampe Berger Help said...

I'm sorry "dksg",

I beg to differ...

Selling to earn a profit is ethical.
Why not?

Say you open a shop, a shop selling food.. You got no business from outside but you mainly your friends and family comes to buy from you..
Would you sell to them your food without profit?

Business is business.. still there must be a certain percentage of profit...

I would say, the most un-ethical one is being in the business is selling and then giving empty promises and you are not honest enough in dealings.

That is un-ethical..
Earning a profit is a must from all business.. that is how business people sustain..

duke said...

based on what dksg said..that means a lot of business man are unethical...

lol...they earn money from their friends also...

hahahaha...

Anonymous said...

no such thing...business is business...even if you work for a company you still be under pyramid scheme...no diff than MLM...they pay your salary for your work and they getting richer everyday...it just that you will constantly get you monthly salary...meanwhile MLM you have to work for it ...wanna earn big bucks work for it...money does not come easily..ask bill gates if you dun belive me the biggest pyramid scheme ever...cheers

slumber said...

dear fren,

MLM is no different than business, employee/employer and etc.

You work for the company they will pay your salary because they are making money out of your work and yet they are getting richer everyday it just that you dun have to pay/invest anything when you join the company. This is only for people who like to play safe and don't want to be too rich or too poor.True?

Business/MLM is different, you must have a capital to start with. The more you invest, the more you will get back or lose. In every business there MUST be a risk, it just a matter you can handle the risk or not. Business is only for people who are firm and not easy to give up on things. In this MLM or Businees we can only find quiters and when they quit...they fail...WHY?? because they cant find any customer/downline/investor/buyer and also since they have put too much money/time/effort and yet they still fail..so they will start looking for something or someone to put his failure onto.REMEMBER THERE ARE NO FAILURE ONLY QUITTER.

As for me I'm doing Amway/Omega Trend/LB/Shaklee/Selling computer hardware/software and also working as a employee for an IT company in KLCC as an Exec.

Since this is about LB...so..
In LB, there are some upline who are not sincere in doing their business, forcing people to pump their money in by educating that this businees is very very easy to do..but its actually not..like me my upline is a very good person and very sincere in doing the business. His word when he was trying to get me to join the business "This business is not easy ..if you think you can do it then only I want you to join me...if not.. dont waste your money&time on something that you do not belive in..."

But to be frank..I can say all MLM is the same, You must work for it to be successfull and carefully choose your upline...a good upline is the one who can work with you side by side and willing to help you when you are in trouble...

Lampe Berger Help said...

Well said slumber,

Bear in mind that you have a great upline to work with and I hope this site don't hold any grude against you.
As this blog/site is meant for those those upline or distributors whom are not sincere and un-ethical.

I wish you in great success in MLM and I also do wish to hear your success story one day in this blog.

But I do want to say one thing is, once there is a rotten egg in a basket of good eggs..
Others eggs will be deem as rotten as well.

It will never end, unless, THOSE distributors whom are un-ethical and un-sincere are gotten rid off..

Anonymous said...

Look at the MLM structure ...

I sell to my friend a product I just used so that I can make a profit .. my friend relied on my judgement and thats about all ...

A scheme that rely on you getting your friends or others to be your downline and you profit from their sales ... is just not ethical ...

Anyway, I rest my case ... For those who believe that asking your friends to cough out an initial sum to "start" the "business" and profit from that recruitment ... good luck ... hope you got enough friends and friends' friends to see you thru the long run ...

MLM poisons one's mind to see all your relatives and friends as "contact" list, just like insurance agents in the past ... remember ? everyone avoid them like pests ... later in life you will know that life is more than having a long "contact" list for you to "sell".

How long is your "contact list"?

crazysocket said...

getting idea from lampebergerhelp comment... well, of course we dun sell thing for free to family or friends if we are doing business, but we do give discount.

lb ada discount?

Lampe Berger Help said...

ahha.. family and friends.. discounts of course will have ;)

LB ada discount?
Oh come on..
They only have

"Cut-Count" Which is invest RM 30k

A good discount?