MLM is Bad Business

Hah!
I don't have to even utter a single word. This person has already said everything that is needed to say.



So what if the license has been renewed?

Truth? You want to listen to the truth?
Listen to what that man has to say!

Gah!

Time to get your REFUND??

Still no news about RZ Corporation license yet as of now...
Can anyone who knows about it and wants to help some people out there mind to email me and let me know so I can share to everyone out there!!???

BTW, if any of you who feels insecure about all these, you know what to do...

This is a comment I received in my post "

hayad has left a new comment on your post "Merdeka! Merdeka! Merdeka!":

i quit LB on jun this year. u dont have to write a resignation letter. juz go to the office, ask any lady there a resignation form. U fill the form, wait for ur turn, then they will arrange a date of an appoinment for u to bring all the silly lamp and oil.

u still can return all the stuff as long as u do not open it yet, means they still in good condition.

and for ur information, u wont get 90% of ur profit back as they said during ABP. I only get half of my profit ( i did Baron). They will deduct with the commission and also 10% of admin charges.

My comission as a Baron is only Rm48.69. Wut the hell! I put about rm13k to do baron, and the commission is only rm48. It was very very ... i dont know wut to say.

Wut can i say, i feel very regret joined LB. Luckily i dont have any downlines. If not i will feel much more guilty to them.

You've read it and you are well informed now...

Have fun and maybe you all can start a "Refund Party"??? :D

Lampe Berger in Thailand

Hello there again..
Remember I said about some news from Thailand?

Well, I received an email from a reader who is a French national and his wife is a Thai national. I guess, where ever this business goes, the concept is going to be the same. Just that, well the rate to sell the items much similar to what we are selling here.

Nothing much about this email, it is just to post up something here for your reading pleasure. Also an added knowledge of how this business bring run by DCHL a representative of Lampe Berger in other countries in the region.

Read on:

Hello,

My name is -------- , French National and my wife is a from Bangkok and unfortunately she's been approached by one of her long term friend to visit the office of Lampe Berger settle in a poshy financial disctrict tower.

Initially we knew she had an activity in marketing, but when she was asked what she was doing, she replied: you have to come to see and i'll explain you. It is excellent business....

Few months after we finally went and she and i was explained about their marketing strategies, etc... For which i was already suspicious as in my country it is not allowed.

Further to her first visit, she purchased a very basic lamp ( to my opinion worth 20$ at most ) and an half full bottle of oil fragrance, for 7000 bht ( about 220 $ ... ! )

Thereafter, she started going to their meeting avery day, paid by herself for a welcome training pack, etc... and suprisingly after two weeks was asked to invest 200 000 bht ( 6200 USD ) to be elegible to a higher level or whatsoever...

Luckily she did not invest in that, as she trusted her friend was upset by facing, and she finally accepted, further to seeing lots of report on your site too.

Thank for taking the consideration in reading my message. But please kinly get back to me if you heaed some things about the activities of DCHL in Thailand.

With kind regards,

French National

Interesting email isn't it?
The part which I would like to highlight is here in bold below:

Few months after we finally went and she and i was explained about their marketing strategies, etc... For which i was already suspicious as in my country it is not allowed.

Further to her first visit, she purchased a very basic lamp ( to my opinion worth 20$ at most ) and an half full bottle of oil fragrance, for 7000 bht ( about 220 $ ... ! )

So when the country of origin itself don't practice this sort of "business" operation at their very own country, I shall not go further but let you do all the thinking, digesting to yourself...

Next is the price of the product which is to French National's opinion is worth $20 at most while we are purchasing this product at about $220 over here. What's the logic of running a business where the similar product can be purchased online at nearly 100 % less than what DCHL and its associated companies are selling?

This I shall let you all my dear humble readers to decipher.. :D

Thus, with all that above, I shall sign off and you all have a great day ahead! :D

Merdeka! Merdeka! Merdeka!

We just celebreated our 51 one year of independence from the British!
How far have we gone we all ought to ask?
There are much more to achieve, well, mostly within our country's governance.
But, all in all, we all love Malaysia don't we? Malaysia Boleh mah...

So back to the purpose of this email...

While everyone is celebrating Merdeka! These few readers of mine are seeking the similar "freedom" from this "business". They seek no where but my help. But I can't help much but just to link them to my old post about getting a re-fund and offer a few words of my 2cents of advise.

The real help should come ethically from their very own "upline" who brought them in. You bring them in, you guide them. Either guiding them to the top or guiding them out, it is the upline's responsibility. As they always claim, they will guide them all the way. Pfft.. when their downline wants to quit, they don't even give two hoots about them.. yeah guide! MY A$$ lah..!!

I see this trend in almost many MLM where these are the actual bad apples and these are the people who ruin the long years of relation with their family or friends because of this one particular kind of business.. SIGH...

I got few emails from the ones seeking "Merdeka" and I shall just post them up there so to say that I've been getting a lot of emails.. :D -__-

This email below is by someone from Johor:

to		lampebergerhelp@gmail.com
date		Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:15 PM
subject		Hai

Saya....jua tertipu akibat join LB.Kini dibebani hutang sahaja.Apa harus saya lakukan? Kenapa kerajaan tidak megambil tindakan kepada pihak yang tidak bertanggungjwb.

Then, this one is by someone who seeked help from her partner but being literally ignored:

to lampebergerhelp@gmail.com date Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM subject Procedures to quit Lamp Berger

Dear Sir,

I really really need ur help...i wanna know the procedures to stop and refund my stocks....i've invested almost 12k to joined this stupid business..can i get my money back (the whole 12 k) as all my stocks are still in a good condition....i didnt use and give them to other people....failed to get any partner...i've tried to ask my friend (the one who introduced me this business) but he get pissed off....he said "buat rugi list die jer if i quit"......what the F**K***... so plz sir....really really need ur help....really really hope u can reply A.S.A.P....

Then, this person wrote in to ask how to write a resignation letter:

to lampebergerhelp@gmail.com date Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:45 PM subject hye

hye lampebergerhelp.

i don know wut to call u coz i don know ur exact name.

i jus wanna to ask how can i write the letter of resignation from LB biz?

can u give the example.

Then, these person is seeking information on refund:

to		lampebergerhelp@gmail.com
date		Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM
subject		refund

Dear lampebergerhelp,

how can i proceed for the refund of the and is there any condition for me to do so?

i cant find any of these information from the blog.

rgds

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Whoa! So many old emails published. But they are all read and replied.. :D

Have a great week ahead !!!

RZ Corporation License Cancelled

Hello People! I am back again.. It has been a while since this blog has been updated. Due to busy schedule and everything around me, I have more and more solid and better news to let you guys have a good read at. Of course, the main objective is not to sell this company's products, which I have been asked A LOT of times. The main objective of this blog is to create awareness to the general public of things Lampe Berger, Steven Yeam Network and DCHL will do to make you feel miserable in your life after joining them in the network.

Not all apples are bad, but you are warned now, so that you make your decision better and not complain. Complain, if you haven't read this, but complain not, if you haven't read this blog! :D

Now, this is a piece of news about RZ Corporation. Who is RZ Corporation?

RZ Corporation is the holder of MLM operating license for all DCHL or Lampe Berger activities. I shall not claim that this is coming from my mouth, but thanks to two of my grateful readers (Effandie & Ethan) who alerted me on this matter. Thanks to you two!

The source is coming directly from Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna (KPDNHEP) or rather known in english, Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs (MDTCA).

Link of source

I shall reproduce the similar table from the website itself...

	SYARIKAT YANG TELAH DIBATALKAN LESEN 2008
BIL	NAMA SYARIKAT	FAIL	AJL	TARIKH BATAL	PELAN
1	Worldwide Freshway Sdn Bhd	1834	931502	24.01.2008	MLM
2	Smart Way Sdn. Bhd.	2109	931704	22.02.2008	MLM
3	Rafa Green Sdn Bhd	1962	931607	06.03.2008	MLM
4	Ibioenergy.Com Sdn Bhd	1874	931549	29.05.2008	MLM
5	Nabinco Network Sdn Bhd	2177	931732	16.04.2008	SLM
6	NSSP (M) Sdn Bhd	538	93391		MLM
7	E-Eagle Sdn Bhd	1902	931555	30.04.2008	MLM
8	CWW Worldwide Sdn Bhd	1918	931568	29.05.2008	MLM
9	IMP Network Sdn Bhd / VROOM Club (M) Sdn Bhd	1801	931486	11.01.2008	MLM
10	RZ Corporation Sdn Bhd		931127	31.07.2008	MLM

Now, it was just recently only the license has been cancelled and you judge with your own eyes! Don't call me liar, don't sue me for defamation or whatsoever.

Okay, here is the screenshot so that I can prove that it was taken from the website...
Come on... of course I'm scared. They have all the monies invested on them to file a suit against me!




So, you justify yourself if you should join this company or not. Double check if they have a new company holding the MLM license or not. Insist and demand that they produce a new license, or else, you better stay away from them. Any future dispute, you CANNOT claim, because you are joining an un-licensed company!

There you go.. YOU ARE BEING ALERTED AND WARNED!!

Have a good day and I have news from Thailand!! Hang on while I put it up soon! :D

Still Standing There...

I would like to share this comment by one of the readers..

Oh remember Bel Air? I just met a lady last week and she was saying how they champion that their essential oil can help cure cancer. Guess what? Her friend who is in the same business, died of cancer. Now, again, THINK. Should you believe what you see or and listen what you hear?

wah! has left a new comment on your post "DCHL KUCHING SCAM!!":

fiuh, for the last 2 weeks i had been introduce to this syn members by my best friend. i met different people, the beginner (franchise) dunno how to spell it, baron, count, challenge marquis, marquis. at first, i though like WOW really got people who get high pay, can buy this and that n so on so on. but then i read and heard about being push to invest 30k+ something for count.. aiyoh.. im only a student.. where can i get the money.. dats a lot nia.. even for that 2.5k i still feel guilty coz borrowing from my friends with no reasons (so not me, hate to lie, jaga waterface lagi).. guess what, i haven’t use their money… still in bank.. i prefer to not berhutang n better use my own money but not enough ley… hihi…

when i went to this dchl office i realize that this fellow (u know who) put their money to buy branded or expensive thing as to make them look smart,grand,and luxury just to promote their so called “luxury” in front of their potential investor so that it will convince them how rich they are… . nah.. im not easily influenced by that, coz i always meet real rich and successful people and believe me u can differentiate who is pretending to be rich people or the real one. (i know there a rich people there but not all rite)

actually i wonder what are they doing at their so called office anyway. some of them just standing outside the office talking n repeating the same thing wad they told me to new comers. i went to dat office many times and that is the only MLM office until now dat i didnt see any sales (u know like people buy stuff) compare to other MLMs. people were just keep on talking and talking the same thing non stop like robot. keep on saying that they x sell product but networking. what the purpose of the products then? expensive plak tu.. theres a franchase dat just start for 3 weeks dgn bangganya told me dat she rejected a job offer coz she wants to concentrate to this business. you know for me thats a silly act. i understand if she already gain a lot from this business but she just a beginner .. she datang office pun just tengok2 n just talk2.. its better for her to accept the job offer while doing the business.. when dah stable then maybe its fine for here to quit.

a lot of things to share actually, after saw with my own eyes what happened and read all the articles about pyramid scam (mengkayakan org atasan?) n this syn thingy i dont want to join. but when I look at my bestfriend face that really want me to join.. duh.. dunno wad to say. she invested 30+++ k already, she’s a student, she borrowed the money from a lot of people, including me. should i join? or not? now she seems like think about money, money and money. money is really important nowadays but it still not everything. money cant buy real friendship if u get what i mean. i may not a big spender, but i rather saving compare to join this kind of business coz i will not just cost 2.5k. it will be more than that. fuel, makan2, attend this and that, reload card,my time.

for those who want to join, think carefully, dont let money change you, dont let people force you to do something that you cant. dun berhutang if u not confident u can pay it back, if you still want to do MLM kind of business n dchl is too expensive try to find other MLM, theres always a choice n you can always say no if you dont want. dont do something out of ur own limit. dun easily influence by the marketing plan, its either u gain money or u loss ur money. guys,, think carefully, do research first b4 u join. like me.. =)

(FYI: i still not join yet still need to do more research, dun want to regret later)

They are still standing strong there... but we are here to help impart knowledge on the true reality to people who do search what they come across in life.

A Refund Experience with DCHL

Picking up from the previous letter post...

This is the email I received from this lady about 2 weeks after...
If you are thinking of taking your refund with DCHL/RZ Corporation/Lampe Berger.
Read on what this lady has to say... This is all at her own decision and all at her own
way of getting the refund back... Learn from her courage...

Hi ,

I already went to DCHL to get our refund yesterday.. we told our upline (our colleague) that we're quitting n he was a bit shocked.. maybe he thought we're waiting him to assist us in refunding our stocks..

but what we did was we went straight to the front desk of DCHL n asked the lady about refund.. so she asked whether we have filled in any forms yet? of course not.. she asked how long we have been in this biz.. we told her 2 months.. she asked how many wants to refund do we told her 3 (including my sis, she's my sponsored downline).. so she straight away gave us 3 refund forms to fill in and told us to get back to her once we finished completing the form..

after completing the form, we got back to her and get our no.. we waited for a while and our turn comes.. we need to make an appointment to refund our stocks.. only my sis's account was terminated that day since her stocks was sponsored by me (a franchisee can sponsor 1 franchisee).. so her account was self-terminated.. me and my boyfriend's appointment was arranged to another date..

so when it comes to the appointed date, we went to DCHL with our stocks to be refunded.. but unfortunately, only my account was terminated and got the refund.. my bf's account was advised not to be terminated since when they did the calculation, he only can get back RM1000+ from RM12000+ he invested.. why? becos of the stocks that he received was not returnable..

he received 3 lampes that worth RM1700+ each.. we used 2 of it n the other one we switched with our upline cos he only have 1 lampe in his stock.. so we exchange stocks with the same price.. all the used lampes are not returnable.. there were also short of essential oils that we have already used during the 2 months we're in this biz.. those 3 lampes alone costs us RM4000+ plus a few bottles of oils that we used.. the guy at the counter advised us not to terminate this account cos it is not worth it.. luckily this guy advised us not to terminate the stocks.. so we're thinking in selling those goods to Cash Converters since we once seen a signature lampe sold there.. maybe we can redeem what we lost..

as for my account, i only get RM2300+ from RM3000+ i invested.. i was short of 1 lampe (RM200+), 2 essential oils and an estebel toner.. plus the 10% admin cost (RM250+).. so i lost about RM700+.. that's a lot too.. now we can only refund our stocks in 3months after our registration.. not 6months.. so better hurry for those who wants to quit this..

so, as from my experience.. my advise are:

1. think clearly before joining this biz.. r u prepared to use all your leisure n relax time to do this..

2. do not be too excited with all the wealth they tell u.. i believe this biz can help u to achieve all your dreams but be prepared to sacrifice your time with your family, your loved ones n even for yourself.. u might lost some of your buddies from school/uni/work who doesn't like MLM (those who u invite to this biz as prospects)

3. see the biz in its pros and cons.. everything have its pros and cons.. judge yourself whether u can do this or not and do get consultation from those who are close to u (family members, close friends, gf, bf, etc) before joining this.. do not make your own decision without any consultation cos sometimes, we didn't see what others see.. every perspective counts..

4. if u are still eager to do this biz even your close ones (esp family) object your decision, PLEASE do not make it as a reason they are stopping u from achieving your dreams.. they are thinking for your best.. i heard so many stories about SYN members who doesn't go back to their home becos of their family are not supporting them.. don't forget they will never abandon u when you're in trouble.. not your SYN partners..

i really hope people can see how we see this biz.. we're not against this biz from the very beginning but once we're in the biz, we saw the flaws of the biz.. i believe MLM can help us but the people in MLM are doing it in the wrong way.. everyone can be easily attracted in easy money they portray but make some research and analysis first before joining this..

so friends, if u're thinking of quitting, act fast.. u don't have to wait for your uplines cos it's your decision since it's YOUR OWN BIZ.. be firm with your decision and don't feel sorry for your uplines cos they are your friends.. be sorry for yourself first cos nobody can help u accept yourself.. our upline seems a bit "far" from us since we told him we're quitting though he said he would like us to stay as friends.. we're open and always keep him as our friend..

anyway.. u can share our experience in your blog.. i allow u to publish this anonymously.. thanks for your thoughts.. hope to hear from u soon..


Rgds,
(name cleared)

Now, gain some knowledge here? I'm sure you did...
Till the next one... Cheers People!