A CULT in QuestNet?

Wow, there is a "CULT" in QuestNet. I guess, every MLM needs to survive
on this "CULT". What kinda "CULT"? I don't know. Many kinds.

"Worship" their leaders la, "Worship" their top earners la, and more..

An anonymous reader left a insightful comment in our earlier post
Sister SHOCKED, now FAINTING...

Her comments on the outcome of her relationship because of QuestNet
and not only hers but others as well took me a step back to really ask,
"Why on earth we have these kinda people?" I guess maybe that the
term "Ying" and "Yang" must exist everywhere.. Good and Bad..

Read it for yourself and judge the business by yourself..
______________________________________________________

Like Samantha88, my Ex is also involved in this MLM Biz - OuestNet to be exact. Yeap! He, too, changed from nice guy I once knew to someone I no longer respect. He even accused me for being untrustworthy because I refused to stand by him and join QI! He ended our relationship for another girl because she is also in the Biz but I know too well he is just cheating himself from his own behaviours. Well, I don mind coz the girl is a ... (wild type) and perhaps he deserved a girl like that as he ain't so good himself now!

He even said his family members all 'ganged up' on him because they ADVICED him to leave the Biz which he never did even when the Dato' was arrested! Gosh! How can one even say that about his own family who love him so much?! I really feel sad and sorry for Uncle and Aunty. I tried too but he won't listen to me too. So sorry! I pity him too ....

What scares me the most now is that they use "religious teaching' and quotes from the Bible (no offence to Christianity, please!)to brainwash people!! All religions are GOOD but this is misused of people's faith and i hope good Christians or any religion followers, please oh please stood up and clear your religion's name. These people seem to behave like a CULT now!! In some of their meetings, they call each other brothers and sisters and their 'faith' and trust for their leaders are as strong as one's trust for their preachers, pastors or fathers!

They blamed and accused the media for 'lying' about the arrest of their leaders too! The press can't simply publish without truth! But they are all blinded by all the beautiful promises by their leaders and also the images they've painted in their dream. I even saw many of them quitting their highly paid and stable jobs to do this Biz fulltime. Gee... is it really that different from working with a company? Isn't it the same as these people are also doing the 'selling' and 'recruiting' of people (downlines) for a company too, only that they don't have to go to a office because there isn't any?

Although I am not against MLM and how one gets rich but please do your Biz with good ethics and high morales. I pray that God will help these people see the harm and hurt they have caused to they loved one. May God forgive these cheaters and family breakers. You can dream and make a better future without sacrifying relationships with your family and friends.

If anyone have a solution to help these people, please generously share with us here who desperately trying to 'save' those we love. Thank you in advance.

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Like what she said, you've got a solution to help. Share with us!
I've done my part.. YOU?

Lampe Berger in Indonesia

Lampe Berger Help recently received an e-mail from Bram in Indonesia.

Dear sir,
i am sorry to disturb you with this email
My name is Bram, i am an indonesian lives in Jakarta
I read your blog http://lampebergerhelp.blogspot.com/ due to my research about the LB business
They do everyone here very intense and i think your blog is very big help for us to be objective
I like to ask if you have any testimonial or story about LB in Indonesia.

Thank You

Bram

My Reply

Bram,

I do not have any Indonesian writing to me about their case.

Maybe you could help me source for some news?
You have any forums or blogs that I can make my presence there?
Is Indonesia facing the same trauma as to Malaysians with LB?

Rgds,
LBHELP

hi
thansk for the respon.
Sorry i have no source about LB in indonesia, thats way i was looking at your site.
As long as i know Indonesia has no trauma yet with LB and i need some experience from others who have experiences on this
Maybe you can share yours to me..?
thanks

Any news from Indonesia? So far, I think Lampe Berger and SYN has not
really caused any big hoo-haa in Indonesia. If there is, I'm sure to pick
up something from there as I see, I have Indonesian readers here too.

Bel Air Malaysia

First encounter few days ago, I saw the Bel Air operations center at
UOA Jalan Pinang close down. It is either they are moving or they
have gone BUST!!

I don't know. Anyone of you knows about it?

If you know anything about the operations update of Bel Air Malaysia,
please e-mail me at lampebergerhelp@gmail.com

It would be great for others to know.
Not trying to pin-point their bad news, but well, i think news will always
be news. Everyone sure will be interested to know ;)

UPDATE: 14/06/07

Did they changed their address?

No. 36 Jalan Ss21/39 Damansara Utama
47000 Petaling Jaya, Selangor

t: 603-77253536

f: 603-77253539

w: None Supplied

e: None Supplied

Is this even their new address? Heh.. someone? anyone?

DCHL/Lampe Berger Policy Update

Update towards my earlier post below.

I would like to update this new notice which was published in
DCHL Website earlier this year in February 15.

I'm sure to shock a lot of readers and those who e-mailed recently.

Here goes... look at item number 2. PRODUCTS BUY BACK POLICY


Yes. its 3 Months NOT 6 Months anymore...

Oh wells.. smart DCHL.. very smart.. pray for those who are affected.

LB Help!! I want to REFUND

Hey LBHelp friends...

Over the past few weeks, I have been receiving e-mails on how to refund
their membership and products and claim back whatever that is left behind.

Received an e-mail from a frustrated Lampe Berger member. Read:

Hi,

I was just browsing thru the internet trying to find answers for my questions. and suddenlly ur site just appear on the screen.

I am once an LB member...and sad to say I still am, although I haven't go to the office for nearly 10 months now. I've also been thinking about refunding all my products coz I'm having a hell time paying all my loans.

At first I asked my upline about how to refund. bad move. said that altho I refund, i had to pay for all the commissions that I've received during my countship. and they dun even consult me on what I'm purchasing...now I've realized that half of my products are unreturnable....

now I am working...(I was an undergrad student when I was sought out to join LB)...and I am really annoyed that more than half of my salary goes to pay my loan...instead of getting myself my own car....

My parents constantly reminding me of my loans and bugging me to pay them (they come to my house to persuade my folks to invest in the 30K scheme) coz I borrowed money from relative and have to pay them....I am being tortured enuf by my parents about this mistake.

please help me get my money back (refund)...

when I said about my upline not consulting what I bought, I did check the list again and asked about those unreturnable products, they told me that it is neccessary to buy them coz its easier when distributing it to my "downline".

LB Help: Its a trick and excuse to get you blinded over the terms & conditions that you never read propoerly.

regards,
frustrated

I have a few more e-mails that reads...

E-mail 2

Hi Stecven,

I join DCHL - SYN as Baron 2 months. I planning to quit. But I don't know what should I write in the letter. Do you have example for it?

Joining this business is on my own. I don't blame my upline or others for introduce this business to me. Ermm... you have example of "polite" termination letter? Thanks!

Lim

I assume he thinks I'm Steven Yeam hahaha.

E-mail 3

Hi LAMPE BERGER HELP,

I join now near 3 months, I'm thinking of quitting before my refund policy date end (That's 3 months). I like to write a letter for my termination. Do you know any good example for it. Because I don't want blame the company nor my upline. It's my fault being naive. I have put alot time on it... I know I only can get 90% of it. It's better than none. Can you help me?

Regards,
Sabrina

Hmm... they all asked me the same question. How do I go about with the
refund of my products and membership. My answer is simple.

I made a post last year in August 06: GET YOUR FULL REFUND and also
in March 06: Solutions to Re-Funds. Go and have a read.

I think, Solutions to Re-Funds suits you all who e-mailed me. Read up! :)

Their corporate addresses are listed HERE or alternatively;

RZ Corporation
Level 1, Menara HLA,
No.3 Jalan Kia Peng,
50450 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
TEL : 603 2162 9068
FAX : 603 2162 9193
Email: csd@dchl.com.my

Think Before You Join DCHL/LB/SYN/RZ..etc

That's my only wise words to you all out there..
It all depends on what path you want to choose in your life..

If you are not afraid of losing friends, losing hope, breaking down most
of the time when you just can't sell "dreams", recruits or sell the LB
products, then think again of joining the DCHL/LB/SYN or any other
MLM industry similar to Lampe Berger.

When I say similar, it means, "investing" a large amount of money from
either RM 2,500 till RM 30,000 ++ to purchase a the products and
then retail it back to friends and families by either selling it to them or
bringing them into the business just like you.

Let Mr. Donovan tell you more on what he thinks.

Hey lampebergerhelp,

I came across your blog by chance and I truly admire that someone like you
is really not afraid to speak up your mind for what is right to the society.
What I am about to write, I hope you will post it on your blog for other
readers to read.

One of my friend who is an LB member brought me to his company annual dinner
at Sunway Hotel, and that is when I get to know about Lampe Berger. Many of
their members seem so friendly with me.. but for what purpose? To persuade
me to pay them money to join their LB scheme of course. One of their top
'convincer' talked to me and said things like "you join our business, this
is like a gift for your girlfriend. You earn more money to make your
girlfriend happy". Smart talk right? I was almost pulled

At first I was almost convinced to join Lampe Berger since they keep telling
me stories about how some of their members become succesful and earn 6-digit
salaries by joining Lampe Berger. I argued with my father to give me RM2.5k
to join, but luckily he was stubborn. I want to have money, and everyone
does... that's why there are some people who are still blinded by these LB
scheme.

After a long and hard thinking for a few days, I came up with my own
conclusion which I warned to some of my friends, and it's effective. You
see... Lampe Berger is not really a scam, but an unethical scheme. You CAN
earn lots of money by investing RM2.5k or RM30k into the business. But at
what cost?

Do the people who join Lampe Berger ever think about who are they going to
invite into this scheme? Obviously the best people they can invite to join
them are FRIENDS who trust them. You don't go around and simply ask
strangers to give you RM2.5k rite?
But what happens if your friend invested in RM2.5k but they didn't make it?
They start to blame you... they start losing their trust in you.. they avoid
themselves from you and so are your other friends. Yeah sure, go ahead and
earn money by asking your FRIENDS to join and get them into trouble. If you
want to make money and lose your friends and your reputation, then Lampe
berger is the best scheme for you. If money is more important than your
friends, then join the LB scheme. Go ahead and join... and see yourself
struggle to earn money by cutting down your number of friends. Because of
your greed for money, YOU GIVE UP YOUR FRIENDSHIP, which cannot be bought
back with the money you made from your unethical scheme.

I have seen some people who persuade their friends to join MLM (not only
Lampe Berger). I don't see them having so much friends around them. But in
the end after they quit their MLM, they realize how stupid they are to join
MLM at first place. My friend who tried persuading me to join LB was very
friendly, treated me nicely, spend money on me, and was close to me. After
knowing that I will not invest a single cent in his business, he stopped
seeing me.

I'm sure alot of you have heard countlessly from LB members, saying that
"you pay RM2.5k, if you never work hard, you'll lose money. If you work
hard, you will be very succesful and earn alot of money". Yeah that's true
what they said... but did you ever consider that by 'working hard' means
troubling your friends and make them lose money for the sake of your profit?
If you and your friend suceed, then bravo... but just remember that MLM is
not for everyone, and when there are some people who suceed, there are
others who fail.

In conclusion, LB is not just a 'morality scam', but also an unethical way
of doing business. Please take my advice and don't lose yourself by joining
Lampe Berger. The reason why i decided to post this is so that my friends
and you (readers) think harder before you join in ANY MLM scheme. Think of
your loved ones.

Enough said? So do i..

MLM = Scam?

Off the DCHL/SYN/Lampe Berger news...

Let's see some interesting news that gained front page news at NST.

Sunday 6th May 2007
Three Filipino partners also held at five-star hotel.

KUALA LUMPUR: A Datuk who made his millions overseas before venturing into businesses here was arrested by Indonesian police for multilevel- marketing (MLM) scams.

The man, in his 40s, was arrested with his three Filipino partners in a five-star hotel in Jakarta on Thursday night.

They were attending an international event at the Jakarta Convention Centre.

Read more HERE

In this news

The Datuk and his partners are allegedly involved in an MLM company with branches in Southeast and East Asian countries. It produces limited-edition coins and medals, jewellery and timepieces sold through network marketing.

My first guess of the company is QuestNet.
How would I guess? The keyword? limited-edition coins.

It turns out to be true.. BRAVO!!

Monday 7th May 2007
Datuk wanted in RM308m fraud case



KUALA LUMPUR: Businessman Datuk Vijayeswaran S. Vijayaratnam, who was arrested in Jakarta last week, is wanted in connection with a US$90 million (RM308m) fraud case in the Philippines.
Indonesian police are co-ordinating with their Filipino counterparts to extradite him to Quezon City where a warrant of arrest has been issued against him for a nine-year-old case.

The warrant is for fraud and conspiracy, according to the Interpol website.

The 46-year-old is the group managing director of QI Limited, which is based in Hong Kong with branches in 30 countries from Australia to Brazil. Its regional office in Malaysia is in Petaling Jaya.

Read more HERE

I do not have much to say.. but just few wise words.

No matter how big is any MLM, I mean any, I don't wanna quote any
specific ones, they ought to be something fishy behind them.
Questnet is so big, but why this thing can happen? Maybe it was an error.
An error by NST? Come on.. don't joke me...

Just do a simple google search on "MLM Lawsuit" There's your answer!

Sister SHOCKED, now FAINTING...

My last post about this case was "Sister SHOCKED with investment of 36K"
This sister came to me seeking help. I gave my wise advise, and thus now
again, I receive an e-mail from her just last week.

So, nothing more shall I speak off but to let you guys read..

it's me again.. i'm mad, confused and very frustated with my sister behaviour. I made her to promise to stop for a while thinking about the scheme until she has finished her final exam. Yes, she had promised me. But, suddenly after few days she rang my aunt asking to borrow 1K.. She has broke her promise to me.. Then my aunt got worried.. tell my mom. My mom advised her to discuss the matter with my father after she had finished her final exam. My mom even asked her to do a proper paperwork if she really wants the 36k from my father. (Well, to involve in business.. you should have a paperwork right?). She promised again to put aside for a while about this 'lamp' thing until she finished her final exam. But, again she broke her promise, willingly to go back home in the middle of the exam week.. to ask my father for 36k!! My father refused to gave her. But she insist.. at least give her 5K. You see.. how determine she is to involve with the 'lamp'?? I really don't understand. The introducer of this DCHL is friend of my brother. He said 36K is optional. But, seeing my sister behaviour, it tells you the other way. I have no more ideas how to stop her. What scaring me is if she persuade her friend, which is our neighbour, to join as well.. I'm very scared now.. I'm afraid that her friend's family will be our enemy just because of this silly thing. My father had made her to choose between her studies and the 'lamp'. She chose her studies.. but I hardly want to believe her after she broke her promises to me.
I did asked my sister to read all the blogs about DCHL,Lampeberger scam.. etc.. however all those writings in the blogs did not even a little to make her think again and stop joining. I just don't know what else to do... Pls.. if you can just help me.......

Who teaches the younger sister to borrow money from her aunty?
Who will motivate the younger sister to do so?
Who is teaching her to be so aggressive in search for money while
she is still studying and looking forward to a bright future?

These are the young and innocent people who just left high school and
started pursuing their dreams from college/university life.
Why must they be treated like that and in the end, who will suffer.
Where are the ethics?

Lampe Berger Ruled by Government?

AHAH! I've waited for the right time. I hit the jackpot.
My guess was correct. It was in matter of time they took it down.
WHAT? you are asking.. Hmmm... let me tell you what.
In Malaysia, this is a normal case. If you can't feed some people
you are gone case. But if you can, then you are in the league.

See, on the 4th April 2007 exactly 3:34 AM, samantha88 in lowyat forum
made a post #1711 where she searched the Securities Commission website
and found that the name Lampe Berger is in the list.

This post can be found in the Lampe Berger & Estebel Issues V2 thread.

This is not a made up story. When samantha88 found a truth, she posted
it in the forum straight away. In her post, you can find the full list she
copied and pasted in there. So, what's the truth?


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I gave it some time and again today I made the search. See what I've found?
It is under the Investor Alert list @ www.sc.com.my


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BRUTAL FACT! Its GONE now!


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Securities Commission have taken the Lampe Berger company out
from their list. Reason why? God only knows.

See, when Ms. X in my previous post saw this whole list last week
she was shocked and that made her not to invest anymore and the lost
of RM 250 is like nothing to her already.

And now the Securities Commission has taken down the name.
What we all want to know is WHY? E-mail sent to SC to ask for
clarification in this matter. Let's see what's their reply.

Lampe Berger peeps will say, "see this proves we are legitimate"
But the question is, if legitimate and what not, why was it up there
in the first place? why there are so many people out there who
are objecting this whole thing SO MUCH MORE than other MLMs?

Enuff said..

Next "Brainwashed by Lampe Berger"
(a sister who came to ask for help now face another trouble)

Saved by the Blog (2)

This blog has helped saved a lot of innocent poor soul by warning them
the tricks and tactics used by DCHL/Lampe Berger/SYN to lure
poor innocent people into their "get-rich investment" business plan.

We are proud to say that, the exposure from Lampe Berger Help is now
worldwide. We have readers from all the region in the world. *_*

We have recently saved an innocent soul from getting lured into
DCHL/Lampe Berger/SYN's business plan. This girl wrote a very
SUPER LONG e-mail to LB Help seeking help and advise on the
whole truth about Lampe Berger.

Absurd of Ms. X's first email to LB Help.

Until that part, I was impressed (although I didn't know her previously). On the first day of our conversation, she invited me to "her office", but I couldn't make it. So I went with her just yesterday, after work. Before that, we had lunch together and she explains to me about the business she was in. Starting from the history (all the insurance, food and water filter industry covered) and the McDonald's and everything (people who had been to LB meetings should know this) bla bla bla. The part that she always stress on is how her parents raised her, how her mother did rubber tapping to support her schooling, her father is a carpenter, and they are very poor. When she started this business, she invest 30k, and she get 100k in 2 months. She bought her mother a ring worth RM4k and her mother cried. OMG, I was really impressed.

During the lunch she asked me how much would I invest. I told her I have RM5k savings. She then came out with a story of her colleague in LB, 2 sisters who took personal loans to get RM30k. She didnt actually tell me on her marketing plan first. She just tell me stories about her success, and her colleague, and her husband's and her brother's.. To my surprise, I truly believe her. I never joined any MLM before, even my bestfriend approach me to join her in Amway and Zhulian etc etc. I'm really not into any MLM business. I don't like chasing people to join me, or persuading and convincing people to buy things. Just not my type. I never heard of LB before, but I've seen the advert board each time I drove to my office.

Then, A asked me when is the fastest that I can get the money to invest? Whoaaaa...now now, I havent said anything to her yet. I just told her than it's interesting. She told me that she invest 30k and straight away hold a high position (count?). She actually insist me on investing RM30k, my goodness! I told her I dont have a RM30k, my savings all gone. Then she asked me to fork out all my left over savings (RM5k). I already told her that it was for my rainy day, but she said i can surely get back my capital (RM5k) plus my commission in a few months. Her husband infact, made 300% commission within 6 months.

I told her i couldn't do that. Then she said, at least give her RM2700 to allow her to give me the franchisee license so that I could attend their training and everything. RM2700 is also a big amount for me as I have so many things to pay for. I told her I can't. Then she asked me to prepare RM250 by the end of the day to enable myself to join a meeting (or something like that) in a hotel this weekend. I didn't said yes to her, but I agreed to follow her to her "office" in menara HLA, without knowing that actually who goes there means that they have agreed to join.

I went there after work with A, she introduced me to her older brother, who looks like a very shy guy (he's a book worm, I can tell by his face). Then he started to talk, exactly the same thing A has told me. They convince me on how they wanted to open more market to Bumiputra (I'm Malay by the way) and sort of. Its getting late and more people coming in, its a full house. She told me about a UPM student who is making RM50k per month. I asked myself, how they did this actually.

After her brother had explain to me on the marketing plan whatsoever, she asked me if I have RM250 with me. I said yes, because I planned to pay my credit card that eve. She asked me to hand over the money to her in order for the to register me. I took the RM250, and gave to her. OMG. I think it comes with the feeling, I don't want to actually embarassed myself infront of her brother and many friends and many other people. Shit, they were all there to join, how come I could rejected it?

The way how they persuade and impress people into the business
never changed from Day 1. Hmm.. A never mentioned about how
Steven Yeam came from little Klang and ventured into Hong Kong?
hahaha oh wells, back to the

Ms. X actually went to the office and paid up RM 250 after so much
persuasion by A. To us, it is just the feeling and we all do thing following
what our heart tells us to do. Ms. X could just reject everything and
just walk away. When it comes to money, our eyes open very big, and
our jaw open wide. But when the truth is revealed, our eyes open even
BIGGER and jaw open WIDER.

Next, "Lampe Berger Ruled by Government?"

Sister SHOCKED with investment of RM 36K

So, it has been a while since i last blogged about Lampe Berger.

But I need to share one piece of news here with you.
With how these people in Digital Crown Holdings Limited (DCHL)
are running the MLM is totally ruining the life of many. Many whom
are young and innocent. Many who do not know anything about money
management and the risk of taking loan.

I received one email today by this lady questioning me the rationality
of all the investment and what-not. She was SHOCK! READ ON

Hi,
Actually I'm in shock because of my younger sister has just asking me for a loan of 36K to 'invest' in DCHL.
She has already 'invest' 2.5K (she is supposed the 'franchisee' now.. right?) and she got lampeberger stuff as her free gift.. she said. But when I check the DCHL website, to be a franchisee.. you have to sell or use the product up to 2.5K and it is not a free gift. But in her case, you pay 2.5K, get the lampberger product as free stuff. Don't you think it is little bit weird here?
After 3 days joining as franchisee level, she asking the whole family for a loan of 36K. She even suggest me to make a personal loan with the bank for her.. I believe the level that she wants is the 'Count'.
I don't know much about DCHL, and this is the first time I ever heard about it. And.. the first time I heard you need 36K to enter MLM. She and her group concept.. get more people to 'invest'..the much the better... is this what DCHL really promotes? Please.. I need an explanation... and please reply a.s.a.p..

I'm not surprise how shocked can she be. With her sister asking her
RM 36K is like asking for her life. I pity them. But why? This have
to be brought to many others, do not let your love ones fall into all
these. Investing RM 36K and wat about the returns?
What about the damage which will be made later on?

One friend i've known through this blog is asking for my help
to help her return 2 TWO! signature lamps when she invested
as Count. HOW la? I told her put it on e-bay on slashed price and
pray that they will sell.

She wrote to me because this blog is pretty much exposed outside in
the world wide web (WWW) aka Internet. Do a search of anything on
Steven Yeam Network (SYN), DCHL, Lampe Berger + scam, cheat, etc..
AND
You will end up having my blog in top 10 or top 20. Which is really good.
So, i will reply her soon enough after my lunch now ;)

IT IS JUST SYN...?? True or False??

Ad, a recent commenter said that, DCHL/Lampe Berger got nothing to do
with all the scandals and what-not.. I beg to differ.. Literraly yes they don't
but still, they are part of it.. See what Ad wrote,

ad said...

we, its NOT DCHL that scam people, it's a bunch of people, or so called "team", under the name SYN a.k.a Steven Yim Network that scams others. by stating Lampe Berger, u indirectly affiliate other innocent or ethic group of mlm team with SYN.

SYN was a shame of LB or even worse, whole MLM industry. i'm not against your, just that it seems like you haven't know whats the relationship between SYN, and DCHL/LB.

it was SYN that promise u a beemer. it was SYN that educate you dont have to sell goods. it is SYN that tells you pay for a count and find 5 people only. but SYN never tells you u have to maintain quota. it is SYN that promise you 5 figure income.

again, its SYN that exploit the system build by DCHL/LB. DCHL/LB is the distributor, while SYN is the selling channel, how SYN sells it is SYN's business, DCHL only provide the goods. how SYN wants to educate the downlines is not entirely DCHL business.

if u research more in SYN, you'll know more dirty secret what SYN had done to hong kong MLM industry.

hope this clear things up, but the damage has been done, and hope u really understand what i'm trying to say, and i can't do much clearer then that.

26/1/07 12:36 AM

My say would be, yes they are the same. DCHL acquired the license from
Lampe Berger, while Lampe Berger grants the license. So they are the same.

It it is widely known that most of the bunch that scams, cheat
and lied are from Steven Yeam Network (SYN).
In Malaysia, LB is operated under the umbrella of RZ Corporation.

RZ Corporation is under the Malaysian Direct Distributors Association (MDDA).

I guess, they are not as what they said " Ethical, Responsive, Excellence"

If RZ Corporation takes more care in their member's doing!
If DCHL/Lampe Berger does more investigation on what's going on..!
The situation would be a lot more different.

Money Mind blog on the names of MLM or business-kind scams on the
3rd January 07.

I decide to start this thread and hope some of you can update if you come across any scams or businesses of similar nature, so that we can help others from being scammed.

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Comments from Network Marketer

A reader, who is also a network marketer (prob. from LB) left
a comment.. A very LONG comment..
And I decided to reply his/her comment... (in bold)

Network Marketer said...

If anyone of you really got cheated, please kindly report to DCHL itself which is located in KL's HLA building, as we will terminate his/her membership (which means blacklist the person). We already know certain people are misusing the concept which ends up like a scam, and these actions has already gone against our policy of professional business. So, please please please kindly write letter or whatever to complain to the company specifying the names of your uplines, instead of complaining in a blog. The company or should I say the business, is not lying or cheating anyone, the people are.

NM, this blog's sole purpose is to let people know about the scams of Lampe Berger. Furthermore, i've already have some guideline on how to write in to the company and also requesting for refund > HERE and >HERE I guess, I've done my part greatly.

And for those people who fail, ask yourself, have you put the effort to actually learn how the things work 1st before starting to find people? Did you go to office often to meet people and ask around how they do the business? Did you do your planning 1st before moving? Did you manage your time properly? Did you attend the seminars? Did you fail or did you GIVE UP? Ask yourself and answer honestly 1st before pointing at the business and say people can't make it. And remember the saying because of 1 tree(the uplines or whatever) the whole forest gets the flame.

You already gave the answer to it. "And remember the saying because of 1 tree(the uplines or whatever) the whole forest gets the flame." Why continue when there is THIS problem going on?

And for the retailing part, why not try looking in a business point of view. If they retail in Asian countries, do you think they will have a good sales? This network marketing concept is created for Asian countries(which are obviously has lesser rich people) to make people earn money and buy their products. And guess what, the 11 asian countries which runs this concept contributes 90% of the sales for DCHL. And more western countries are starting to switch their methods to Network Marketing and it get more sales profit.

I agree in looking in a business point of view. But why sell something that not many average Malaysian can afford it and furthermore, that many people knows that this company selling THIS product is more like a scam.?
Western countries switching to MLM? It is a matter of time. But I won't be seeing that to happen real soon in 10 years..

And come to the Hong Kong part, if Lampe Berger is proven lies, why is everybody still accepting it? Simple answer, because people are close minded enough not to accept new concept of business, like how people are against insurance 20 years back. By the way, DCHL is going up the Hong Kong stock market soon. Do you think DCHL can actually LIE to the government? They have headquaters in 11 countries(Asia) man. Including Japan, Taiwan, HK, etc.

Have you heard of the word "Corruptions"? I guess, every country's govt. face this "problem". And a LIE can be covered by it...
There can only be one headquarters my friend. I also can set-up like them and run the same way of business like them.What's the big deal? Only thing is that I don't scam people, I don't look down on people

Lampe Berger is proven to be harmful to women? Well, get this, Lampe Berger offer 10 MILLION euros gurantees to the product, and after 109 years of existence, NO ONE has claimed that money till today. AND, hospitals in France (LB is a France brand for your information) uses LB as bacteria filter.

Prove your product. Show it. I myself can't confirm on that. But if you can prove it is harmless. Case Close. :)

Lampe Berger does not lie as its a BRAND of a PRODUCT, and its ONE of the PRODUCT which DCHL is distributing.

Why not everyone go to DCHL headquaters to fully understand how to see Network Marketing in the BUSINESS point of view instead of closing your minds, not accepting it and starts talking like you know everything?

I know everything because, I've seen it with my own eyes. I've gone where most people haven't gone to and I've known more than enough to call this whole thing "money sucking company" and " human scamming company"

Do you know that you actually have to study Network Marketing in colleges to do the business in Japan? Do you know that the 9th Malaysian Plan actually includes Network Marketing to boost the economy? And DCHL is actually the No. 1 in the list? No? Well, people, start UNDERSTAND things before crapping like you know everything.

Haven't you even heard that people in Japan runs their MLM business with ethics?

And finally, thank you, for having the patience and being a little open minded to read this whole 'essay' of mine. I appreciate it.

That's my comments.. Readers your turn.

AH LONG STYLE

Hey friends...

It has been a while since I last updated this blog..
Guess, that I've been busy lately.. Not much time to bother about all
these un-ethical peeps in SYN/DCHL/Lampe Berger anymore but..
My toughts were wrong, this is my third time checking my mail, during
my hibernation period and it just brings more and more furious..

Out of 6 e-mails, 4 are asking for refunds help..

Please Look Up to my previous post
1) GET YOUR FULL REFUNDS.. but.. HoW?
2) Solutions to Re-Funds

All I can say, you can't beat them, be like them.. BE AGGRESSIVE!!
That's the only way to get rid of those un-ethical so called "business"
owners who knows nothing about "R E S P E C T" and "E T H I C A L"

Look at how they were asking for money from their recruit, after the
recruit quit and it was the uplines who were saying, they can cover for
this new recruit, but things turns ugly when the new recruit QUITS..

Read on to know how DCHL/SYN/Lampe Berger educate their people

This is the case of mine : i join LB last year SEPT.. it was a BIG MISTAKE i ever did as i was being frequently pyscho by my upline who is Mr.J and Miss.C . they keep pushing me until one day i cannot tahan and i agreed to join LB. the problem is i told them i had no money, imaging : RM2345 from a college student ( where can they get this huge amount of money, other than borrow from friends or family?) in the end, they ask me to join 1st and they SO CALLED dont mind PAY BACK to them later when i start to earn back.

Sincerely, after i joined.. calls keep coming in, asking me to do this and that, follow up and down, and what so called COME OUT and MEET OUR top earners and know more friends....... i really sick of it as i couldnt cope with my studies since ever after i join LB. my housemate even ask everytime before i go out :" go sell BOMB again ar? " SELL BOMB (i agreed after i regretted for not listening my friends and family advice)

One day after 1 year i keep avoiding my upline cause i really feel very FAN of them... they purposely drove far down to my house and give me a call .

conversation between us :
Mr.J says:" Jxxxx here, i already infront of ur house, u better pay us the remain money, else we going to meet up your parents ! "

I says :" not i dont want to pay, but i dont have so much money at the moment " , " i already SMS to Miss.C said that i will settle the amount by next month. (THE SMS that i sent was this:" I on meeting now. Talk much also no point, u will say i owe u.really REGRET to join LB.Pls stop callin,thanks.Gv me ur bank account number, wil pay u bck by year end.Thanks for making my life miserable.")

Miss.C(was just beside Mr.J) says :" tell him dont SIN KA LAN la, i never receive his SMS !!! "

Mr.J says:" do u want me to tell or meet your parents onot?" (keep repeat)

after a few minutes, i send a SMS telling them to give me their Bank Acc number so that i can bank in the money to them. and a SMS replied by them : " Maybank xxxx-xxxx-xxxx(Cxxxxx Lx Kxxx). bank in RM2000 by MONDAY, else i will take action! "

that time i was at outstation. The night when i bck and i check my house letter box. this is the paper i found ....................not just 1, but 2 paper for each letter box, not just that and also in 2 version of language.. WOW =.= i guess they are really desperate for getting back money in such a AH LONG ways.

And YES!! LAMPE BERGER HELP IS BACK FROM HIBERNATION!!!

GET YOUR FULL REFUND.. but.. HoW?

One anonymous reader showed us how to refund in full..
HoW? By just getting a letter direct to the Managing Director..

Write your letter similar like this..

Managing Director,
RZ CORPERATION SDN BHD,
Level 1, Menara HLA,
No3, Jalan Kia Peng,
50450 Kuala Lumpur.


REQUEST FOR FULL REFUND OF PRODUCTS.

With reference to the above matter,I requests a full sum of RM2500 be refunded to me. I make this on the basis that

1. The company practices front loading which is illegal as I am made to understand
2. As a consumer I was not given a contract under the Direct Sales Act 1993 therefore I consider the contract void.

Please arrange for your goods to be returned.

Thank You.


CC1
Ketua Pengarah Bahagian Penguatkuasa,
Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri & Hal Ehwal Penguna,
Aras3 Blok 2G3
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Perseketuan Precint 2
62623 Putrajaya
Selangor.
CC2
Pengarah Kanan Bahagian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri ( Unit Jualan Langsung)
Aras 4 Blok 2G3
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Perseketuan
Precint 2
62623 Putrajaya
Selangor.

When you mention a CC to the both ministry, please send it to them, do not
just "cakap kosong" (empty talk) just like the network itself (Steven Yeam Network)
On top of that, I strongly suggest you talk about your un-ethical UPLINE/TEAM.
That would be a very strong basis for you to get a re-fund...

Now, start writting this wonder love letter to the RZ Corporation.
Let them wake up and give all the money back to those whom they cheated with their
promise of dreams and empty talk by the distributors..

What's Wrong With Multi-Level Marketing?

a.k.a. MLM as said by Dean Van Druff,

"Let me tell you about an incredible ground-level business opportunity," and you are invited to a house or to lunch for "a discussion." Funny enough, you feel sick in your gut that there is some hidden agenda or deception. "Probably a multi-level marketing (MLM) organization," you think. Suppose it is? Should you trust your instincts? Is there anything wrong with MLM?

This article which was written by him (Dean Van Druff) is a great article that looks into the four primary area of Multi-Level Marketing.
1) Market Saturation
2) Pyramid Structure
3) Morality and Ethics
4) Relationship Issues

My verdict would be that, Dean Van Druff has written this article with his heart.
He feels the MLM way and his article is a must read for all citizen from every walks of life.
Truly a MASTERPIECE..

One sentence I mean, verdict that we could use to reply to those who are in the MLM is this:

The basic question that needs to be asked is this: If this product or service is so great, then why isn't it being sold through the customary marketing system that has served human society for thousands of years? Why does it need to resort to a "special marketing" scheme like an MLM? Why does everyone need to be so inexperienced at marketing this! Is the product just a thin cover for what is really a pyramid scheme of exploiting others? But more on that later.

Now, go and have a read here at What's Wrong With Multi-Level Marketing?

oh.. ANOTHER LAMPE BERGER NEWS??

UPDATE 16/08/06

Okay I'm lazy to translate..
Sorry readers..
BUT!..
You could use this >> BABELFISH
to translate la.. :P

What I understand from the article is that, there are many ads lying around
in the newspaper, in the pole, notice boards, magazines and many more
places that ask the question "Want to earn 5000 a month with a home business?"

or anything similar..

These are all acclaimed MULTI LEVEL MARKETING..
The most recent big ONE to reach our shore is HERBALIFE..

Lampe Berger/DCHL/Steven Yeam Network has seen a rather slow business.
I'm guessing alot more people are aware of their dirty and on-going work..
What I just can't stand is the IRRESPONSIBILITY of leaders who say they will
lead you to victory.. but when you just utter the word "quit" they will not
give two fcks about you.. and it happens.. alot of times uncountably..

Speculations would say, LB Help got nothing more to say already...
I got no more news to write about them.. nothing much special and it is just
all the same news again and again.. Don't you think it is bored?
Yea i do think so..

Say, I don't dig out people's news anymore.. but let me dig out more about
my history with Steven Yeam Network people and share with you all..
That would take some time.. cause I want to shoot all out.. not few times.

Till I post again.. say in a week's time.. take care you all.. and don't forget..

E-mail me.. yum char or what also can.. ;)

lampebergerhelp@gmail.com

6款有疑點輕鬆兼職

“金字塔”騙局

1.兼職者想在6個月時間內，每個月收入5000令吉，無須買貨、無風險，只要投資！

★真相：這是“金字塔”騙局！

該公司為網絡傳銷公司，以“金字塔”模式的方法介紹朋友入會，投資者需先繳付2500令吉的註冊費，之後再介紹5個朋友納入旗下，以此類推。投資者將得到2500令吉的產品作為投資保障。

該公司的產品包括一些空氣香精油及護膚品，產品據說來自法國，有提神調整身體平衡性等作用。此外，會員也能享有公司所提供的SPA服務。成為會員後，公司會教導會員如何做生意，加入半年的時間一定會有5000令吉以上的回酬。

Full article here at GUANG MING WEBSITE

Full translation in 48 hours. Please wait..
Don't ask why 48 instead of 24 or less than that..
I need to earn build my gold mine reserve.. :P

Enchance Your Knowledge.

Don't ask me how..
But.. READ UP!!

HEre are some book that our dear bookstore "MPH" has its shelf..

It only cost like RM 2.50 ONLY

Not.. RM 2500 so.. go and buy and read.. ;)

Pictures Shall We?

Ok OK..

I'm not pulling a prank.. but internet sucks big time in uploading pictures..
Let me run to a free internet outlet and I will upload from there..

Ciaoz..

Some photos.. yea..

Err.. I don't think so I need to balnk the personal details or black out the face or watsoever...

HERE GOES>.



Duke Patrick on the LEFT.. with some SYNer



The Ferrari they are talking about..



If I am not wrong.. this is Patrick's second car..


SO WHAT ABOUT THE IME??

Here..



The banner and anonymous girl..



The pencurimen in blacks..

Hibernation Mode

Please excuse the blogger for the moment.

The blogger is currently on a mission to source for more information on the
current state and affairs of DCHL/SYN/Lampe Berger.

It is to bring you better news and up to date news..

On a sidenote, July's intake into the DCHL/SYN/Lampe Berger sinistry
has dropped drastically... ;)

Sentosa Island didn't do much but just pump up the spirit of the people
in SYN.. and it already sucked about RM 1200 to RM 1500 from each
distributors AND about 5000 (estimated) sinisters attended the so called
"Party of the Century" or rather "parti of the pencuri"

The blogger will come back soon enough to not bore you of waiting.
Please hang in there...