A brother's point of view of Lampe Berger

Received an e-mail from Summerchild47400.

It was such an angry e-mail and I shall re-post them here for you to read.

This is the outcome of being stubborn and trusting someone you just met rather
than your own beloved family who has been with you thick and thin...

I bet you after reading this, you will beware your love ones, brother, sister,
mother, father, uncle, aunty, grandfather, grandmother, boyfriend, girlfriend about
Lampe Berger/DCHL/RZ Corporation and Steven Yeam Network.

Here goes..

I'm a non-LB person, but here's an account of real-life observation and expressions to be shared. While I don't doubt the ability of the minority who somehow managed to make money out of LB (maybe they're lucky... maybe they're good at it, etc), the majority don't really succeed. I'm not going to condemn them here, but LB has definitely left its scar on some people.

Upliners always tell those 'kids' out there that "we help people improve their live by selling opportunities to them... anyone can do LB ... " and so on. When I asked a particular LB "Count" why so many people lose money in it, the verbatim answer given was "people who fail are those who are lemah semangat i.e. weak. What kind of answer is that?

My brother is stubborn and went all against the advices of my parents and me. He bought a Count position and quitted his full-time and good, albeit tough job (tell me, who doesn't start off hard in the beginning? For goodness sake, don't be lazy and afraid of hardship...). Please tell me, whom do you trust more, your family or SYN? Yeah right, please go ahead and argue that you trust SY more than your family because he drives a gorgeous car while our own parents may not drive such a car, for instance. Well, SY drives such grand car because there are many naive kids around!

Like I said earlier, I'm not denying the ability of making money out of such business. Yes, there are success stories out there despite ethics issues in such biz. But how many are there? And let's just assume that the biz is not fishy, does anyone think that it will suit everyone? Each individual is unique and different. Talents differ. Weaknesses differ.

At the moment, I'd say that my bro falls within the category of non-successful LB "businessmen" - LB folks like to call themselves "businessmen" when filling up forms. When he first bought that Count position using my dad's hard, but honestly earned money for his retirement days. I wasn't there when he spoke to my dad on such thing, so I have no idea how he succeeded in his persuasions. All these happened very quickly behind my back & I was shocked. I felt an utter disappointment with the ones I love most.

I've known my bro for more than 2 decades & not to belittle him though, I'm a little doubtful. I could only hope that I was wrong so that things won't turn out badly. In any event, "belum cuba, belum tahu" and at most, he should have started off lower first, if business really thrives like crazy, then perhaps may consider buying that Count position. In this case, losing about RM 40K won't be as bad if your family is financially well-to-do, but for an average middle class family, it's a big slap.

On my bro's case... He claimed that he earned RM 7K during his 1st month in Nov 2007. Bought a phone of RM 2xxx and showed-off to me. Perhaps I was wrong? Later, he tried hard to persuade me to join his biz and I gave a firm NO. He then flashed out his phone to me & said "See this? If you were to buy one, you will have to 'ikat perut' for one month, hahaha!!!" Some more, he said he's going to buy a Nissan Sentra in April. Such arrogant LB Count, what can I say about my own beloved bro? I want to see him succeed in whatever he does, but not such arrogance.

2nd month, he told me he got RM 5k. But came to Jan and Feb this year, he got no pay at all! See... such biz doesn't have very steady incomes. Then he started begging for loan from my parents and me. I have no money for him, so he went to my cousins instead. Then, one of my cousins helped him a little, while the other did not. To be objective, I think that my bro does not deserve sympathy. Who asked him not to save any money in the 1st place? He's over 21 and should have been much more matured that this. "Dah lah tak de EPF", want to spend money like water pulak.

My dad warned him that it should be the last time he help him. Recently, my bro fell into financial hiccups again. Scared to ask my dad, he went to a cousin instead. He didn't even tell me anything. My cousin cousin did not promise to help him, but informed me instead. OMG, what's wrong with my bro? He's so thick-skin and goes around asking for money and I'm sure that if it continues, people will end up avoiding him. Now, don't say buy Sentra, he can't even buy a bicycle (sorry bro, but it's true and I'm frustrated with you). "Kononnya" earn RM 7k per month and still got cheeks to ask for money from people poorer than him! Fortunate for him he didn't qualify for bank loan, or else he would have been declared a bankrupt - at 22!

Such clear signs of biz not doing well and yet he's reluctant to stop, or at least find a permanent job and do LB part time instead. My bro is the most stubborn person I've ever met because he NEVER listen to any advice (other than his upliners'). Therefore, my disappointment in him is beyond words.

Lastly, there are actually many more things I want to say, but I believe I will not say them once I've cooled down. Thousand apologies to all reader(s) if I sound harsh on my own brother, but in reality, I just want to see him behave like his normal self before joining LB. I can't blame the existence of LB/SYN for this, simply you have the choice and prerogative over yourself! It's boils down to the individual to decide on what ought and ought not be done in the frist place. I'd want to see him become a successful chef or having descent work to do, not a failed "businessman" who lives in non-reality world.

MLM-type biz is definitely not for everyone! And feel free to criticise me, if anyone wants to.

Great that you lasted till the bottom of this post.. ;)
I'm not surprise by Summerchild47400's anger... who wouldn't if they have a younger
brother just like his?

Students, The Easy Target!

Who couldn't agree more that mostly those who fall for these kinda "business" are students? They just graduated, they are somewhat less likely to work in Malaysia, due to all those comments on how bad their first job would be and how bad their salary would also be. Given that situation, who wouldn't in their fickle mind want to earn big money with a "Franchise Business" which would one day bring them at the helm of wealth and prosperity and also with a large network that will help build them in the industry?

Who wouldn't eh?

Students are the most easy target due to that particular reason and it is also why most
of the e-mails I get are from students who fall into the "unethical" promise of business
earnings. This is what Lampe Berger, RZ Corporation and Steven Yeam Network will
promise you when you join their "business" network. Not so easy in the beginning but
you will end up raking the riches.

Which in return, a mere recruiting process other than selling. This is not "franchising"!
This is GIMMICKING the franchise model!

Ms. Chong sent me this e-mail seeking help earlier this month.

Hello!! I'm glad I've found this site. I'm 20yrs old, currently a college student, I managed to make a few friends from DCHL 2 months ago. It wasnt until few weeks before that one of my friend brought me to her "company". I was so surprised cuz I thought she was working somewhere else, but then she told me this was her part-time job, I was like ok. So, without any further thoughts, I went to her office with her. To be honest I was so impressed by the Estebel SPA, Lampe Berger thingy which she claimed are all artistic product and also E.P cosmetic products. They did a T-up, and she asked her other fren to explain how this "investment" works. Juz like what they all claimed when they first arrived at the office, I know straight away it's a direct selling business juz that a lil diff from what I used to know.

With a lot of sweet sweet talks, they keep telling me how other hav successed through this business, and we should look at it in a different way. a new and modern way of doing things. They told me not to tell my family, and also my closest one - My hubby that I am in this business, as this will affect my perception towards DCHL, and also they told me not to tell anyone unless u have learned anything as ppl will encourage me to stop becuz they think this is a lie. Ok ~ I was convinced, and I seriusly don think of telling my own hubby that I'm gonna spend RM2.5 k on this membership franchise thingy, which I think would shocked him. So ~ after a few hours of talk they, and discussing the marketing plan from Franchise >Baron> Count>Marquis they finally asked

:"So what do you think? is this a good plan...?"

"Yep.. it's good."

" What are you waiting for, sign the form and u'll be part of us!"

"Well..ok." (without much thinking."

"But then, how much are u willing to invest?"

(I was thinking of saying RM10.00 ...) "I donno.."

*scribble scribble* and they started to telling me that initially I have to put in RM2.5 k. I was like WHAT THE HECK!!!!!!

IF IT WAS RM50-100 I WOULD SERIOUSLY THINK OF JOINING BUT RM2,500 THAT IS A BIG DEAL TO ME DUDE! AND U KNOW WHAT, THE THING THAT I SO ANGRY OF IS THAT THEY DON, YES THEY DON EVEN THINK OF YOUR SITUATION BEFORE ASKING YOU TO JOIN, WITHOUT EVEN MENTIONING THE RM2.5 K TO YOU BEFORE HAND AND THEY SERIOUSLY DON GIVE A DAMN OF UR FINANCIAL SITUATION. I TO.LD THEM I WNT BE ABLE TO PAY THEM IN THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BUT THEY DON GIVE A SHIT..YA..DON GIVE A SHIT. THEY JUST GO ON INSISTING THAT I HAV TO CLEAR MY PAYMENTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN START TEACHING THEIR SHIT DAMN THING. FOR GOD'S SAKE IM JUZ A GODAMN STUDENT FOR UR INFO.. I FEEL LIKE SCREAMING THIS IN THEIR HEADS N FACES!!!!!

Ok ~ I donno why, mayb cuz all their brainwashing techniques I was so dazed, slip into the fantasy land and pay them RM400. ok..
after that my fren invited me to a roadshow and they recommended me to join this promo pack, facial treatment where i can get this blablabla package which cost about S$250 and the marquis gave me another extra foc spa treatment.. ok it wasnt bad, I signed up! but then, they invited me to this R&R in KL which after that I was told i'd have to pay RM50 for the entrance and I've brought along my hubby, which he thought was a trip to KL for fun. It seriously exhaust our energy sitting few hours in the stadium for the recognition thingy. i've to slipped out a few times to pee and to cigarettes with my hubby ~ not to mention it was so boring, for someone who hasn't involved like me and for my hubby who don even hav a clue of wat's goin on, it was as torture. He has to pay RM50 for the entrance fee and he thinks its a waste of money and time!!!!!!! We were schedule to leave at 6pm but ended at 8pm, ok ... I don blame them and most importantly, when we arrive S'pore it was already 2.00am in the morning. My hubby was sososossososososo pissed off!!!! and we had our arguement, and I was lucky he's still talking to me today!!!]

What im trying to say is.. they are targetting teens or youngster like me who are naive and think that money drop from the sky. It's not impossible u see, juz that the way they ask me for the membership fees and not listening to wat I'm trying to tell them that I'm a total helpless student, althou married but my husband's salary is just enough to feed us for a month. (Ya.. we survive on instant noodle and pipe water) they are not considerate about ur situation. and calling themselves tryin to help???? cmon, if u're trying to help, why not target those rich ppl / at least sponsor half of my subcription fees???????

Btw, i'm thinking of quitting once my upline come back. I'm gonna tell her I don wana get involved, and it doesn't matter if she said the 400 is not refundable. I juz wanna finish my special promo spa treatment and make an end to this! Thus, I don hav any other time to waste. I wan to spare time with my hubby and studies. Is this possible? I hav signed the application form, and gave her RM400, and I've also signed for the spa treatment package, can I back off now? I need to know.. thankx

I leave the evaluation to you after reading this e-mail. It is nothing new to me.
I gave her a big guide on how about she can go with to back-off while she can.
Decision is up to her and if she is earning big bucks now, I shall wish her all the best.

Sister SHOCKED, now FAINTING...

My last post about this case was "Sister SHOCKED with investment of 36K"
This sister came to me seeking help. I gave my wise advise, and thus now
again, I receive an e-mail from her just last week.

So, nothing more shall I speak off but to let you guys read..

it's me again.. i'm mad, confused and very frustated with my sister behaviour. I made her to promise to stop for a while thinking about the scheme until she has finished her final exam. Yes, she had promised me. But, suddenly after few days she rang my aunt asking to borrow 1K.. She has broke her promise to me.. Then my aunt got worried.. tell my mom. My mom advised her to discuss the matter with my father after she had finished her final exam. My mom even asked her to do a proper paperwork if she really wants the 36k from my father. (Well, to involve in business.. you should have a paperwork right?). She promised again to put aside for a while about this 'lamp' thing until she finished her final exam. But, again she broke her promise, willingly to go back home in the middle of the exam week.. to ask my father for 36k!! My father refused to gave her. But she insist.. at least give her 5K. You see.. how determine she is to involve with the 'lamp'?? I really don't understand. The introducer of this DCHL is friend of my brother. He said 36K is optional. But, seeing my sister behaviour, it tells you the other way. I have no more ideas how to stop her. What scaring me is if she persuade her friend, which is our neighbour, to join as well.. I'm very scared now.. I'm afraid that her friend's family will be our enemy just because of this silly thing. My father had made her to choose between her studies and the 'lamp'. She chose her studies.. but I hardly want to believe her after she broke her promises to me.
I did asked my sister to read all the blogs about DCHL,Lampeberger scam.. etc.. however all those writings in the blogs did not even a little to make her think again and stop joining. I just don't know what else to do... Pls.. if you can just help me.......

Who teaches the younger sister to borrow money from her aunty?
Who will motivate the younger sister to do so?
Who is teaching her to be so aggressive in search for money while
she is still studying and looking forward to a bright future?

These are the young and innocent people who just left high school and
started pursuing their dreams from college/university life.
Why must they be treated like that and in the end, who will suffer.
Where are the ethics?