Days ago, there was one new here at Sin Chew Daily
that talks about a mother's worry on her son asking for RM 30,000
to invest in a MLM Company.. (Guess which MLM Co.)
>>>>> HERE <<<<< (in Chinese)
Then there is a latest update on the same similar MLM Company
It is talking about that MLM Company luring graduates and students
as young as 19 years old, to join their company with promises of getting
rich faster than working and enjoying a luxurious life...
And that company needs an initial investment of RM 2345 and a further
RM 30,000 and more than RM50,000 for higher level.
So... which company needs this big amount of investment again?
>>>>> HERE <<<<< (in Chinese)
I'm sorry that I couldn't translate the chinese wordings..
But.. if you need to read the translated first new..
Please visit Anti Lampe Berger's Post.
The news is from the Region of Johor Bharu, southern Peninsular of
Malaysia.. I'm just waiting for a news piece from the Klang Valley
papers.. but oh well.. they are all controlled by politicians and what not..
It is another new beginning...
Sunday, May 28, 2006
Friday, May 26, 2006
REFUND Matters again and again!!
For the past weeks, Dexter of StopMLMScams has been getting e-mails
from readers to his website pertaining to re-fund matters and investment
which can't be refunded due to certain matters.
It troubles me when I read them, and I wish to bring this out to the
public's notice and please share it with your friends.
They have no-where to go. Even if they go to the company and their
uplines, you think they will offer their utmost assistance?
NO is the answer.
These e-mail has nothing to hide and it is their individual upline's fault
for not being informative.
FIRST E-MAIL
SECOND E-MAIL
Dear Dexter,
Thank you for your time and I really appreciate your advice and assistance.
Have a nice day!
p/s: None of my family members nor friends knew that I joined DCHL except
for my upline, that's why it's a bit hard for me to get one or two friends to
accompany me to create a big scene. =|
Regards and anticipating a reply,
da Karen who needed help
from readers to his website pertaining to re-fund matters and investment
which can't be refunded due to certain matters.
It troubles me when I read them, and I wish to bring this out to the
public's notice and please share it with your friends.
They have no-where to go. Even if they go to the company and their
uplines, you think they will offer their utmost assistance?
NO is the answer.
These e-mail has nothing to hide and it is their individual upline's fault
for not being informative.
FIRST E-MAIL
Hi Dexter,
I need your opinion. i will explain it as simple as possible. My gf invested
30k in LB in the pretext that there is 90% refundable within 6 months if
she decides to quit. Within the 6months, she did decide to quit and she told
her upline A and B They told her she cant have the refund coz most
of her products are promotional products something like above 1k products.
Therefore she just left with the impression that she cant get her money
back anymore, i didnt know any of these because i told her not to get me
invovled but now i only found out from her and 6 months has alreayd
passed but shes still having her stupid products. Any advise besides having
to go all those you've mentioned abt running up their office and create
a scene? thanks.
Rgrds,
e
I need your opinion. i will explain it as simple as possible. My gf invested
30k in LB in the pretext that there is 90% refundable within 6 months if
she decides to quit. Within the 6months, she did decide to quit and she told
her upline A and B They told her she cant have the refund coz most
of her products are promotional products something like above 1k products.
Therefore she just left with the impression that she cant get her money
back anymore, i didnt know any of these because i told her not to get me
invovled but now i only found out from her and 6 months has alreayd
passed but shes still having her stupid products. Any advise besides having
to go all those you've mentioned abt running up their office and create
a scene? thanks.
Rgrds,
e
SECOND E-MAIL
Dear Dexter,
First of all, I would like to apologize if I get your name wrong, i saw it at the
stopmlmscams blog and the entries are posted up by you. Anyway, to the blog
owner, thanks for setting up the blog to create awareness to the public or at
least show the 'true colors' of the 'get rich fast' MLM scheme by DCHL. =)
Btw, i came across your entry of the ways to get your refund back on your
blog and your suggestions are to contact the 'top' person of the co and make
a big scene in the office. But, how am I suppose to know who is the 'top'
person in the group? I thought of going straight to the counters and ask is
there any person in charge for me to see in order for me to get my refund
but i predicted that I will get some silly and stupid excuses from the counters,
with the intention of 'shoo-ing' me away only. Oh ya, for your information,
I am just a franchise. I've spent merely RM2500 and nothing more.
However, I regretted. After I pay the amount of money, i get my stocks only
2-3months later. However, it's my fault too as I did not push my upline for it
as he is my 'good' friend during my uni years and I do not need the products,
so it's fine that I dont get it. I have even told my upline b4 i get my stocks
that, can I don't want the products and get whatever refund that the products
is worth for? doesnt matter even it's RM2000 or RM1800, it's still alright
with me. But sad to say, the answer i get from my upline is that..
THAT IS ONLY APPLICABLE FOR BIG INVESTOR.
Hey!! how come you did not ENLIGHTEN me about that fact at the point
when I join? So he started to be very actively contacting me for delivering
the products. Fine with that. So,obviously, after getting the products, i find
that they are of NO USE to me at all!! They are just normal beauty products
that I already have a series of other brands. So, in the end, I still have all of
them in the bag, left UNTOUCHED until today. That's the reason why I
wanted a refund of my money as I get frustrated everytime I see my
RM2000+ lying there in the corner. It has been 5 months since I joined
DCHL/ SYN, can you please please please tell me a way
(besides contacting the 'BIG' fella) to get my money back??
Do you think it'll work if i go straight to the counter? even it's 50%, I don't
mind, everything is in BRAND NEW condition with plastics on it as well.
stopmlmscams blog and the entries are posted up by you. Anyway, to the blog
owner, thanks for setting up the blog to create awareness to the public or at
least show the 'true colors' of the 'get rich fast' MLM scheme by DCHL. =)
Btw, i came across your entry of the ways to get your refund back on your
blog and your suggestions are to contact the 'top' person of the co and make
a big scene in the office. But, how am I suppose to know who is the 'top'
person in the group? I thought of going straight to the counters and ask is
there any person in charge for me to see in order for me to get my refund
but i predicted that I will get some silly and stupid excuses from the counters,
with the intention of 'shoo-ing' me away only. Oh ya, for your information,
I am just a franchise. I've spent merely RM2500 and nothing more.
However, I regretted. After I pay the amount of money, i get my stocks only
2-3months later. However, it's my fault too as I did not push my upline for it
as he is my 'good' friend during my uni years and I do not need the products,
so it's fine that I dont get it. I have even told my upline b4 i get my stocks
that, can I don't want the products and get whatever refund that the products
is worth for? doesnt matter even it's RM2000 or RM1800, it's still alright
with me. But sad to say, the answer i get from my upline is that..
THAT IS ONLY APPLICABLE FOR BIG INVESTOR.
Hey!! how come you did not ENLIGHTEN me about that fact at the point
when I join? So he started to be very actively contacting me for delivering
the products. Fine with that. So,obviously, after getting the products, i find
that they are of NO USE to me at all!! They are just normal beauty products
that I already have a series of other brands. So, in the end, I still have all of
them in the bag, left UNTOUCHED until today. That's the reason why I
wanted a refund of my money as I get frustrated everytime I see my
RM2000+ lying there in the corner. It has been 5 months since I joined
DCHL/ SYN, can you please please please tell me a way
(besides contacting the 'BIG' fella) to get my money back??
Do you think it'll work if i go straight to the counter? even it's 50%, I don't
mind, everything is in BRAND NEW condition with plastics on it as well.
Thank you for your time and I really appreciate your advice and assistance.
Have a nice day!
p/s: None of my family members nor friends knew that I joined DCHL except
for my upline, that's why it's a bit hard for me to get one or two friends to
accompany me to create a big scene. =|
Regards and anticipating a reply,
da Karen who needed help
Wants to Re-Fund
SS sent me an e-mail, asking me about the re-fund procedure when he
has 2 or 3 Franchisee under him. He has been in the business for about
4 months now and is deciding to quit.
Read his mail.
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Hi. i'm SS... i'm count in LB business for 4
months.. n now i dun to continue this business.. i
want ask about the procedure about 90% refund? if i
oredy got 2 or 3 franchisee direct line and if my
upline oredy become a marquis.. is it still possible
if i get my 90% refund?? only some my item are
non-refundable products.. i want my refundable
products back to them and i get my refund.. pls do
reply a.s.a.p.. i'd like to thank you if u can help
me.. ^^
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SS, you can re-fund but your re-fund must minus all the profits that
you gained from pushing your stocks to your franchisee.
So, so meaning to say that you have RM 27,000 of refund left
from that RM 30,000 you will have back RM 19,965 left.
Raw calculation and not acurate.
has 2 or 3 Franchisee under him. He has been in the business for about
4 months now and is deciding to quit.
Read his mail.
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Hi. i'm SS... i'm count in LB business for 4
months.. n now i dun to continue this business.. i
want ask about the procedure about 90% refund? if i
oredy got 2 or 3 franchisee direct line and if my
upline oredy become a marquis.. is it still possible
if i get my 90% refund?? only some my item are
non-refundable products.. i want my refundable
products back to them and i get my refund.. pls do
reply a.s.a.p.. i'd like to thank you if u can help
me.. ^^
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SS, you can re-fund but your re-fund must minus all the profits that
you gained from pushing your stocks to your franchisee.
So, so meaning to say that you have RM 27,000 of refund left
from that RM 30,000 you will have back RM 19,965 left.
Raw calculation and not acurate.
Sunday, May 21, 2006
Neutral Comment by Distributor
Receiveed e-mail from a current distributor on a Count level.
Out of curiousity.. how successful are you in there, Jacky?
Did u borrow as well to buy that level of Count?
Been a while in DCHL/Lampe Berger I guess.. How long?
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Hi All,
I do believe that some distributors uses a lot of tactics to
push people into MLMs,however LampeBerger has the most heat on it
because of the high amount of money involved...2k plus-30k plus. In
any case, alot of people do not understand enough or being misled by
certain uplines who are concerned with their own wealth than to
actually do this like a legal business.Stories such as people being
asked to apply for several credit cards(well legalized loan sharks)to
swipe for a 30k count position abound.These uplines used to be in the
credit cards business(the ones in supermarkets and shopping centres
pushing a credit card into ur face) or have people in their
organisations who used to be card-pushers(lol new term?). So, getting
rich is important,in some ways(money can't buy you love,baby,...or
maybe not real love....just can buy you some honey..if u know wad i
mean..) but getting rich by neglecting moral values is the lowest way
to get there. I admit I am a distributor,a Count, but I really despise
these distributors who push people beyond their means to get into a
Count position. If you are with the right mindset and attitude,it will
bring you there. Some people can't afford a Count but borrow to become
one won't last, unless they are really determined and 100% sure they
will succeed. The thing is, no one can guarantee it. If you want to do
it, start small....like everything else since we were born...learn to
walk before you run. Even if it takes you 5-8 years to achieve it...it
is more honorable than to steal your way in.
-Jackie Liew
Out of curiousity.. how successful are you in there, Jacky?
Did u borrow as well to buy that level of Count?
Been a while in DCHL/Lampe Berger I guess.. How long?
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Hi All,
I do believe that some distributors uses a lot of tactics to
push people into MLMs,however LampeBerger has the most heat on it
because of the high amount of money involved...2k plus-30k plus. In
any case, alot of people do not understand enough or being misled by
certain uplines who are concerned with their own wealth than to
actually do this like a legal business.Stories such as people being
asked to apply for several credit cards(well legalized loan sharks)to
swipe for a 30k count position abound.These uplines used to be in the
credit cards business(the ones in supermarkets and shopping centres
pushing a credit card into ur face) or have people in their
organisations who used to be card-pushers(lol new term?). So, getting
rich is important,in some ways(money can't buy you love,baby,...or
maybe not real love....just can buy you some honey..if u know wad i
mean..) but getting rich by neglecting moral values is the lowest way
to get there. I admit I am a distributor,a Count, but I really despise
these distributors who push people beyond their means to get into a
Count position. If you are with the right mindset and attitude,it will
bring you there. Some people can't afford a Count but borrow to become
one won't last, unless they are really determined and 100% sure they
will succeed. The thing is, no one can guarantee it. If you want to do
it, start small....like everything else since we were born...learn to
walk before you run. Even if it takes you 5-8 years to achieve it...it
is more honorable than to steal your way in.
-Jackie Liew
Lampe Berger Truth?
Huh? another blogger.
this time, he said he knows alot and have known how they started
from the beginning..
Wow, impressive!!
I will wait for his/her new post after this..
Constant e-mail with that blogger shows that he/she knows alot.
and he/she is really strict on his/her identity!!
oh well..
I'm off for now.. I will share more later on
http://lampebergertruth.blogspot.com
this time, he said he knows alot and have known how they started
from the beginning..
Wow, impressive!!
I will wait for his/her new post after this..
Constant e-mail with that blogger shows that he/she knows alot.
and he/she is really strict on his/her identity!!
oh well..
I'm off for now.. I will share more later on
http://lampebergertruth.blogspot.com
Saturday, May 20, 2006
Wednesday, May 17, 2006
Site Traffic Sudden Increase
Site Traffic Increase of a sudden...
Thanks to Low Yat.Net
Hmmm.... spread the word more!!
Thanks to my loyal readers.. hope you have a link to me from your site...
Thanks to Low Yat.Net
Hmmm.... spread the word more!!
Thanks to my loyal readers.. hope you have a link to me from your site...
Saved by the Blog
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 17:12:10 +0100 (BST)
From: Rohaizan
Subject: This blog saved me!
To: lampebergerhelp@gmail.com
Hi all,
I was so about to join this scheme after I was invited by a friend to this SYN "Stephen Yeam Network" gathering somewhere in Penang. They explained to me about this "skim cepat kaya" plan. Honestly speaking, I believe that this plan will work, but with a catch, sacrificing a few friends/families relationship, if you know what I mean. They say I can earn 5 digit income per month if I join. I believe them because of their SUPER SPORT CARS!
When I went back home after the meeting, I couldn't sleep thinking of how can they be so rich. That was where my greed started to kick in, and started to dream about getting my own NISSAN SKYLINE V-SPEC R34. LOL!
But luckily, my instinct tells me to do some research about this network before joining. I searched the internet and finally got to this blog and saved me. :)
I pity my friend who invited me to go to the meeting because he has already join the network. I will try to save him if I can.
Finally, from now on, I will stick to my grandfather's saying "MAI TAN SIM !
JANGAN TAMAK !"
Regards,
SatriaTurbo
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WOOT!!
So uerhhh... we are live savers now huh? :P
Good to know that SatriaTurbo..
From: Rohaizan
Subject: This blog saved me!
To: lampebergerhelp@gmail.com
Hi all,
Regards,
SatriaTurbo
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WOOT!!
So uerhhh... we are live savers now huh? :P
Good to know that SatriaTurbo..
Sunday, May 14, 2006
Cheated by Good Friend and No-Refund YET!!!
So how do you define a person as good friend?
A person who comes to your aid whenever you need them?
A person who will borrow you money when you need it?
A person who calls you out every night for "yum cha"?
A person who introduce you a business and later on tells you he
saved you from a misery of a sad sad life of no money?
Now, introducing a business... did he/she saved you or screwed you?
This piece of e-mail was received by Mr. C and he recently joined
since Feb 2006. Now, his case is VERY SIMILAR with mine...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was introduced to this MLM company, DCHL selling
Lampe Berger & Estebel products in Feb 2006. I was
invited to its office by my friend of 10years(Phoon).
After listening to their explainations(they reminded
me not to ask other ppl's opinion), i was then invited
for their talk called NDO in PWTC and it cost me RM100
for that session.
Even after the talk, i wasn't so convinced of joining.
However, Phoon kept calling me and even came over to
my house to find me. Before i joined, i asked him
whether the money for a franchisee (RM2350) can be
refunded because i heard from a friend of mine that
it's not refundable. He did asked me to becareful.
However, Phoon assured me that it's refundable and
asked me not to ask other ppl's advices as they don't
know about the business. Sadly, i listened and joined
as franchisee and bought RM2350 of products.
They then asked me to attend talks held in HLA
Building for two weeks. One of the talks even brain
washed us to put in RM30k as investment. Besides that,
one of the talk conducted by Marquis Marcus(a lawyer)
kept saying that by investing RM30k,you'll only lose
RM3k in 6months if u decided to refund. He however
didn't tell all the clauses, he only mentioned that
signature lamps and products worth more than RM1250
can't be refunded.
Without me realizing, i was then approached by a few
uplines who then kept brainwashing me to buy RM30k of
Lampe Berger and Estebel products. They kept telling
me the benefits of becoming a count by investing
RM30k. I told them i don't have so much money and i
wanted to see first whether i can make it. They are so
good and skillful at talking that i'm tricked to
believe that it'll be easy to make money and succeed
in this business by listening to them. They even
helped me to check around for personal loans and
suggested also swiping credit cards. And again, i
succumbed to their persistance and i ended up swiping
my credit cards. They taught me to use my god bro's
name as my downline to buy the products so that i'll
have a count under me.
When i was about to make my purchase, they asked me to
take a signature lamp. However, luckily i didn't take
one as none of the signature lamps which i like is
available.
After a few days, i then realized something is not
right after i sat down quietly in my room to think
over. That few days i didn't go to the office and i
decided i want to refund. However, again i was set up
to meet all my uplines and also Duke Zacc. I was again
persuaded to continue.
After a month, i again felt the company's style of
business is not right and doesn't suit me and there's
something amiss with what the people in DCHL said.
This time i went out to check and i was shocked when i
heard that there are so many anti Lampe Berger
setiments out there. I went to the Chinese Embassy to
check what the speakers said is true or not. The
speakers kept saying that China is a big market and
DCHL already has its presence in China. However, i was
only told by the Chinese Embassy it's not true and
there is no such name called DCHL in China. So i
decided that i won't change my mind and i'm quitting
DCHL for good. Rm3k is a big lesson to be bought but i
want to quit it for good.
My nightmare started when i was told that my
franchisee goods (RM2350) can't be refunded. Besides
that, there are many promotional items and also some
of the lamps i bought are no longer in their sales
list. All these also can't be refunded. All these cost
me about RM11k and i was very furious with my so
called good fren, Phoon. I was given the wrong info
all the time. Had i bought the signature lamp, my
condition would be worse. I believe all those people
in DCHL wanted their downlines to have no option to
refund but being forced to continue.
Currently i don't know what to do and how to reclaim
my money. I'm totally lost. Is there any channel which
can help me get those goods refund as all the stocks
are well kept and not opened. Please help me!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm gonna try my best to assist you and help will be my service.
Please do read dexter's post on getting re-fund HERE.
His post can effectively help you get your re-fund back,
but you may or may not need to use that method, as there are many
other methods to be used.
I'm sure, some... and I mean some will say that this post is a made up
story... because of the similarity on most of my post...
There is a similarity for one reason... IT IS REALLY HAPPENING!!
The case is FOR REAL!!..
*sigh* another case of RM 30,000 gone!!
A person who comes to your aid whenever you need them?
A person who will borrow you money when you need it?
A person who calls you out every night for "yum cha"?
A person who introduce you a business and later on tells you he
saved you from a misery of a sad sad life of no money?
Now, introducing a business... did he/she saved you or screwed you?
This piece of e-mail was received by Mr. C and he recently joined
since Feb 2006. Now, his case is VERY SIMILAR with mine...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was introduced to this MLM company, DCHL selling
Lampe Berger & Estebel products in Feb 2006. I was
invited to its office by my friend of 10years(Phoon).
After listening to their explainations(they reminded
me not to ask other ppl's opinion), i was then invited
for their talk called NDO in PWTC and it cost me RM100
for that session.
Even after the talk, i wasn't so convinced of joining.
However, Phoon kept calling me and even came over to
my house to find me. Before i joined, i asked him
whether the money for a franchisee (RM2350) can be
refunded because i heard from a friend of mine that
it's not refundable. He did asked me to becareful.
However, Phoon assured me that it's refundable and
asked me not to ask other ppl's advices as they don't
know about the business. Sadly, i listened and joined
as franchisee and bought RM2350 of products.
They then asked me to attend talks held in HLA
Building for two weeks. One of the talks even brain
washed us to put in RM30k as investment. Besides that,
one of the talk conducted by Marquis Marcus(a lawyer)
kept saying that by investing RM30k,you'll only lose
RM3k in 6months if u decided to refund. He however
didn't tell all the clauses, he only mentioned that
signature lamps and products worth more than RM1250
can't be refunded.
Without me realizing, i was then approached by a few
uplines who then kept brainwashing me to buy RM30k of
Lampe Berger and Estebel products. They kept telling
me the benefits of becoming a count by investing
RM30k. I told them i don't have so much money and i
wanted to see first whether i can make it. They are so
good and skillful at talking that i'm tricked to
believe that it'll be easy to make money and succeed
in this business by listening to them. They even
helped me to check around for personal loans and
suggested also swiping credit cards. And again, i
succumbed to their persistance and i ended up swiping
my credit cards. They taught me to use my god bro's
name as my downline to buy the products so that i'll
have a count under me.
When i was about to make my purchase, they asked me to
take a signature lamp. However, luckily i didn't take
one as none of the signature lamps which i like is
available.
After a few days, i then realized something is not
right after i sat down quietly in my room to think
over. That few days i didn't go to the office and i
decided i want to refund. However, again i was set up
to meet all my uplines and also Duke Zacc. I was again
persuaded to continue.
After a month, i again felt the company's style of
business is not right and doesn't suit me and there's
something amiss with what the people in DCHL said.
This time i went out to check and i was shocked when i
heard that there are so many anti Lampe Berger
setiments out there. I went to the Chinese Embassy to
check what the speakers said is true or not. The
speakers kept saying that China is a big market and
DCHL already has its presence in China. However, i was
only told by the Chinese Embassy it's not true and
there is no such name called DCHL in China. So i
decided that i won't change my mind and i'm quitting
DCHL for good. Rm3k is a big lesson to be bought but i
want to quit it for good.
My nightmare started when i was told that my
franchisee goods (RM2350) can't be refunded. Besides
that, there are many promotional items and also some
of the lamps i bought are no longer in their sales
list. All these also can't be refunded. All these cost
me about RM11k and i was very furious with my so
called good fren, Phoon. I was given the wrong info
all the time. Had i bought the signature lamp, my
condition would be worse. I believe all those people
in DCHL wanted their downlines to have no option to
refund but being forced to continue.
Currently i don't know what to do and how to reclaim
my money. I'm totally lost. Is there any channel which
can help me get those goods refund as all the stocks
are well kept and not opened. Please help me!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm gonna try my best to assist you and help will be my service.
Please do read dexter's post on getting re-fund HERE.
His post can effectively help you get your re-fund back,
but you may or may not need to use that method, as there are many
other methods to be used.
I'm sure, some... and I mean some will say that this post is a made up
story... because of the similarity on most of my post...
There is a similarity for one reason... IT IS REALLY HAPPENING!!
The case is FOR REAL!!..
*sigh* another case of RM 30,000 gone!!
Saturday, May 13, 2006
The Brutal Tactic = PUSHHhh...!!!
Reader J sent in her problem faced for her close one who is into the business.
The outcome doesn't come out right, and last, ended the relationship of
a loving couple.
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I remembered I had an ex- boyfriend who is 'working' for Lampe Berger. I did not know he is in this line until we are together. At first I thougt it is alright for him to be in it, jus hoping he wont asked to me to listen those 'rubbish'.
So it does happen later.
For all the time we spend together, is at that office nearby HLA building(next to Wisma Genting) which own by SS. He(SS) says : " 500 dollars worth of shoes only makes my foot painful" , "Shopping in Sungei Wang is so degrading". (So, shopping in Sungei Wang VERY LOW class or NO class lah?), Then he will show off his buys at Louis Vutton and telling us how much he spend on all his stuff, making everyone envy with their eyes and mouth open. He will also tell us those side- line of his driving what cars, how much they are earning, blah, blah ,blah.
The other thing is that he (my ex) brings me around and 'get-to-know' more people . These people who are perpetually brain-washed already, telling me why they join, why they dont study, why they quit their high-paid jobs, why and lots of why.....
In my mind is that since you can make so MUCH money,telling young people not to study also can make so much money, then what are the schools are for? To beautified malaysia? If you were to say this is easy money, how come they are so many members who has yet to be a duke?
My ex-boyfriend at first, spend his money on me(for only short period of time), I thought he is very well -off. Well, in the harsh fact, he is not. He is been in this line for about a year, his family still staying in 1 room flat. He wasnt being able to support himself financially. He could not pay off his car loan, his car insurance, his phone bill and his daily expenses soon become my burden. I have to pay for the food that we ate. Pay for his phone bill and buy things for him. I was so stressful at that point of time. He even asks my mum to fork out 30 k. (go to hell!) Luckily, i did not bother about telling my mother. (partly because i am scare to ask for money..heehee).
I did follow him around. I want to see how he operates his group members. He use 'PUSHING' method. He keeps asking them to go for courses. Some members ganna scolded for not being able to find new members or someone new for appointment.Making all sorts of sacrastic remarks. Some friends of his even got scolded for not being 'smart' enough by not joining SYN group. (ridiculous)
And another way, he knows more people through that E-POP magazine. He advertise himself saying that he want to know more friends. So some too-much-money-to-waste people will just sms him and saying wanting to know him. They will chat for a little. Then he will come to his main intention. He will ask them whether they want to earn big bucks or not? Some suspect. Some trusted him, and willingly to meet him up regardless he's a stranger to them. (we can see that money has a very strong temptation to human beings). They meet at certain place and follow him to that 'office'. Soon, they will tell them to fork up RM2345 to join them. Ask them to borrow from family la, from friends la.... then their appetiate gets bigger... they will say you will earn more if you start from COUNT. shit. This time, you have to give more than 30 thousand near to 40 K! Where the hell are you gonna to borrow this big sum from? Then, those who are count already, will tell you the experience on how they get the money. They says they begged, cried and all the shit SAYING it worth it beacause of your future and your family.They also says that DCHL is a big organisation, wont run away one! You can use that particular member card to go all over the world to do your business. They will exaggerate till you 'WOW' but your pocket still empty.
They even comment that BEL AIR is the imitation of Lampe Berger. Saying their parts of that lamp thing is highly not usable.
I did not join in the end. He gave me all those sacrastic comments. Saying I wont be successful cos i am not one of their members. I cannot earn so much money in my life. (So did you?)
Everyone has their ups and downs. Isnt it safer to have steady income of your own? Rather than this month i earn, next month i dont?
Luckily i was not in. Not interested right at the begining. Thanks for the best friend of mine who help me to break him off. He is such a pest. A pest from DCHL. Money faced. All i remembered was he tried to get money out of my parents which i dislike the most.
MLM is appealing. But only lazy people who wants fast-cash (which they hardly earns any if they cant find anyone to join them!)
[the relationship only last for 1 plus month]
J
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Distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger are taugh to hard sell.
Yes, in every business, you hard sell, but this kinda way of hard selling by
the distributors are somewhat not fond by the public in general.
Like what J said, they will give you all the talks and exaggerate till you
will be soften in hear and thus joining them as comrades.
I would rather sum it as the PUSH PUSH PUSH method aka PUSHx3
Off I go now..
The outcome doesn't come out right, and last, ended the relationship of
a loving couple.
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I remembered I had an ex- boyfriend who is 'working' for Lampe Berger. I did not know he is in this line until we are together. At first I thougt it is alright for him to be in it, jus hoping he wont asked to me to listen those 'rubbish'.
So it does happen later.
For all the time we spend together, is at that office nearby HLA building(next to Wisma Genting) which own by SS. He(SS) says : " 500 dollars worth of shoes only makes my foot painful" , "Shopping in Sungei Wang is so degrading". (So, shopping in Sungei Wang VERY LOW class or NO class lah?), Then he will show off his buys at Louis Vutton and telling us how much he spend on all his stuff, making everyone envy with their eyes and mouth open. He will also tell us those side- line of his driving what cars, how much they are earning, blah, blah ,blah.
The other thing is that he (my ex) brings me around and 'get-to-know' more people . These people who are perpetually brain-washed already, telling me why they join, why they dont study, why they quit their high-paid jobs, why and lots of why.....
In my mind is that since you can make so MUCH money,telling young people not to study also can make so much money, then what are the schools are for? To beautified malaysia? If you were to say this is easy money, how come they are so many members who has yet to be a duke?
My ex-boyfriend at first, spend his money on me(for only short period of time), I thought he is very well -off. Well, in the harsh fact, he is not. He is been in this line for about a year, his family still staying in 1 room flat. He wasnt being able to support himself financially. He could not pay off his car loan, his car insurance, his phone bill and his daily expenses soon become my burden. I have to pay for the food that we ate. Pay for his phone bill and buy things for him. I was so stressful at that point of time. He even asks my mum to fork out 30 k. (go to hell!) Luckily, i did not bother about telling my mother. (partly because i am scare to ask for money..heehee).
I did follow him around. I want to see how he operates his group members. He use 'PUSHING' method. He keeps asking them to go for courses. Some members ganna scolded for not being able to find new members or someone new for appointment.Making all sorts of sacrastic remarks. Some friends of his even got scolded for not being 'smart' enough by not joining SYN group. (ridiculous)
And another way, he knows more people through that E-POP magazine. He advertise himself saying that he want to know more friends. So some too-much-money-to-waste people will just sms him and saying wanting to know him. They will chat for a little. Then he will come to his main intention. He will ask them whether they want to earn big bucks or not? Some suspect. Some trusted him, and willingly to meet him up regardless he's a stranger to them. (we can see that money has a very strong temptation to human beings). They meet at certain place and follow him to that 'office'. Soon, they will tell them to fork up RM2345 to join them. Ask them to borrow from family la, from friends la.... then their appetiate gets bigger... they will say you will earn more if you start from COUNT. shit. This time, you have to give more than 30 thousand near to 40 K! Where the hell are you gonna to borrow this big sum from? Then, those who are count already, will tell you the experience on how they get the money. They says they begged, cried and all the shit SAYING it worth it beacause of your future and your family.They also says that DCHL is a big organisation, wont run away one! You can use that particular member card to go all over the world to do your business. They will exaggerate till you 'WOW' but your pocket still empty.
They even comment that BEL AIR is the imitation of Lampe Berger. Saying their parts of that lamp thing is highly not usable.
I did not join in the end. He gave me all those sacrastic comments. Saying I wont be successful cos i am not one of their members. I cannot earn so much money in my life. (So did you?)
Everyone has their ups and downs. Isnt it safer to have steady income of your own? Rather than this month i earn, next month i dont?
Luckily i was not in. Not interested right at the begining. Thanks for the best friend of mine who help me to break him off. He is such a pest. A pest from DCHL. Money faced. All i remembered was he tried to get money out of my parents which i dislike the most.
MLM is appealing. But only lazy people who wants fast-cash (which they hardly earns any if they cant find anyone to join them!)
[the relationship only last for 1 plus month]
J
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Distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger are taugh to hard sell.
Yes, in every business, you hard sell, but this kinda way of hard selling by
the distributors are somewhat not fond by the public in general.
Like what J said, they will give you all the talks and exaggerate till you
will be soften in hear and thus joining them as comrades.
I would rather sum it as the PUSH PUSH PUSH method aka PUSHx3
Off I go now..
Friday, May 12, 2006
BIG NEWS?
An anonymous commented here, here, here and here
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Wow big news!!
Someone tried to ask for RM100K each from steven yeam and DCHL through a middle party or else they will use 2 blogs to bring down their business. Steven Yeam and company ignored them and they reduce to 50K now.
If they pay, one of the blog owner will admit that he has misunderstood the business and apologise. The other one will announce that he has happily got his refund and case closed.
I immediately think of this blog.
What a trick.
Look like they will not get it.
Using website threats to make money are common in overseas but in Malaysia, maybe 1st time.
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Well, certainly one of the blog is not mine. I don't ask money just like that!
That is what the "tai-ee-long"(loan sharks) does.. not me nor any of my
other blogger comrades in arm - anti lampe berger & lampe-blogger
But, whoever does that act to solicate money from Steven Yeam must
have the real guts to go against him just like that..!! I mean.. maybe
he/she does have their own agenda.. but without arming yourself
but with these two blogs is not enough..
We need more awareness and.. I'm sure more will be done..
*sighs in dis-beliefs*
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Wow big news!!
Someone tried to ask for RM100K each from steven yeam and DCHL through a middle party or else they will use 2 blogs to bring down their business. Steven Yeam and company ignored them and they reduce to 50K now.
If they pay, one of the blog owner will admit that he has misunderstood the business and apologise. The other one will announce that he has happily got his refund and case closed.
I immediately think of this blog.
What a trick.
Look like they will not get it.
Using website threats to make money are common in overseas but in Malaysia, maybe 1st time.
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Well, certainly one of the blog is not mine. I don't ask money just like that!
That is what the "tai-ee-long"(loan sharks) does.. not me nor any of my
other blogger comrades in arm - anti lampe berger & lampe-blogger
But, whoever does that act to solicate money from Steven Yeam must
have the real guts to go against him just like that..!! I mean.. maybe
he/she does have their own agenda.. but without arming yourself
but with these two blogs is not enough..
We need more awareness and.. I'm sure more will be done..
*sighs in dis-beliefs*
Sunday, May 07, 2006
Can't Get Enough of DCHL/Lampe Berger
Everywhere I go, every corner of the Klang Valley..
Anyone and practically everyone I've met or known, knows Lampe Berger.
I just can't get enough of Lampe Berger everywhere I go..
I've stop doing this "business" and those who knew I went into it will sure
give me a funny look, when I told them I'm not into it anymore..
They will further probe me "Why? Cannot do meh? summore say can do!!"
and more "Cannot find people to con is it?" more.. "how much la you lost?"
A friend called me earlier yesterday and we talked. She told me that she is
so pissed that she was con to go for the "Business Preview" at Pyramid by
Steven Yeam. Funny how she told me how she was con-ed!
Then, a follow up with a fren yesterday also. He told me, his friend no
longer in the business of DCHL/Lampe Berger.. Reason? Because her
upline is so desperate of her investing RM 30,000 and later she found
out that the team needs her to push one guy up to Marquis.
Back then, I also face the same thing. We are instilled that we must help
each other to succeed in the business. Yes, how?
Scenario = Count challenging to be Marquis.
He needs 2 more Count and a sales volume of RM 468,750 in 3 months in
order to succeed to be promoted to Marquis. So all he need is to push and
push his team to recruit more or sell more to reach the sales target.
**Remember, sales volume do comes from the RM 30K investment**
So, on average.. in order for you to reach the rank of Marquis.. all you
need is 15 Counts. RM 30,000 x 16 = RM 480,000
By other means which is to sell the Lampe Berger products, one would
need to sell 780 lamps or 980 essential oils in order to hit the sales target.
Given which each lamp and oil costing about RM 600 and RM 480 each.
RM 600 x 780 = RM 468K / RM 480 x 980 = RM 470K
*Calculation is just roughly. It is not accurate*
Now you see why they would opt to recruit more than selling?
Yesterday, while drinking, this guy, a brother of my friend started talking
about stuffs on Lampe Berger after he knew that I was into that business
and now stopped. He went on and on saying..
"Lampe Berger can do wan, is see how you do it only.."
"You got heart to earn more money and determination sure can wan lor"
"You must follow how they are earning the money... system ma..."
Bla bla bla bla bla and bla... arghh I can't stand him and I made him
drunk for the night.. swaying left to right when walking to the car.!! haha
I am not totally against DCHL/Lampe Berger. It is just that, I can't and
would not follow how they educate people to loan money just to get into
the business and also how they teach you to persuade others to come
out and even persuade parents and tactics to go about in getting the
money to join.
It is just not me.. not me...
On a separate note..
I've received a mail from a guy..Ahmad Za'im,
The subject of the mail reads
"You Sound Genuinely Interested in Helping People"
I read your blog and feels that you are genuine in wanting to help people. I'm not patronising. Now, if you feel that you want to help some more, attend a Smart Money Workshop which is held next Monday night at Kelab Golf Perkhidmatan Awam from 8 - 10:30.
Do let me know if you're coming because I have to reserve a seat for you. BTW, there is a cover charge of RM10
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Seems interesting to me, but I just don't see a link with the workshop and
me with this blog helping others.?? haha...
Ends..
Anyone and practically everyone I've met or known, knows Lampe Berger.
I just can't get enough of Lampe Berger everywhere I go..
I've stop doing this "business" and those who knew I went into it will sure
give me a funny look, when I told them I'm not into it anymore..
They will further probe me "Why? Cannot do meh? summore say can do!!"
and more "Cannot find people to con is it?" more.. "how much la you lost?"
A friend called me earlier yesterday and we talked. She told me that she is
so pissed that she was con to go for the "Business Preview" at Pyramid by
Steven Yeam. Funny how she told me how she was con-ed!
Then, a follow up with a fren yesterday also. He told me, his friend no
longer in the business of DCHL/Lampe Berger.. Reason? Because her
upline is so desperate of her investing RM 30,000 and later she found
out that the team needs her to push one guy up to Marquis.
Back then, I also face the same thing. We are instilled that we must help
each other to succeed in the business. Yes, how?
Scenario = Count challenging to be Marquis.
He needs 2 more Count and a sales volume of RM 468,750 in 3 months in
order to succeed to be promoted to Marquis. So all he need is to push and
push his team to recruit more or sell more to reach the sales target.
**Remember, sales volume do comes from the RM 30K investment**
So, on average.. in order for you to reach the rank of Marquis.. all you
need is 15 Counts. RM 30,000 x 16 = RM 480,000
By other means which is to sell the Lampe Berger products, one would
need to sell 780 lamps or 980 essential oils in order to hit the sales target.
Given which each lamp and oil costing about RM 600 and RM 480 each.
RM 600 x 780 = RM 468K / RM 480 x 980 = RM 470K
*Calculation is just roughly. It is not accurate*
Now you see why they would opt to recruit more than selling?
Yesterday, while drinking, this guy, a brother of my friend started talking
about stuffs on Lampe Berger after he knew that I was into that business
and now stopped. He went on and on saying..
"Lampe Berger can do wan, is see how you do it only.."
"You got heart to earn more money and determination sure can wan lor"
"You must follow how they are earning the money... system ma..."
Bla bla bla bla bla and bla... arghh I can't stand him and I made him
drunk for the night.. swaying left to right when walking to the car.!! haha
I am not totally against DCHL/Lampe Berger. It is just that, I can't and
would not follow how they educate people to loan money just to get into
the business and also how they teach you to persuade others to come
out and even persuade parents and tactics to go about in getting the
money to join.
It is just not me.. not me...
On a separate note..
I've received a mail from a guy..Ahmad Za'im,
The subject of the mail reads
"You Sound Genuinely Interested in Helping People"
I read your blog and feels that you are genuine in wanting to help people. I'm not patronising. Now, if you feel that you want to help some more, attend a Smart Money Workshop which is held next Monday night at Kelab Golf Perkhidmatan Awam from 8 - 10:30.
Do let me know if you're coming because I have to reserve a seat for you. BTW, there is a cover charge of RM10
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Seems interesting to me, but I just don't see a link with the workshop and
me with this blog helping others.?? haha...
Ends..
Sunday, April 30, 2006
NO CEPAT KAYA, KEEP IT REAL...
Well, I do agree that there isn't any "Get rich quick scheme".
Even though there is, there are sure to be any terms bound to it.
These terms are often not told by the introducer.
In DCHL/Lampe Berger, there are many ways these upline distributors try
to bring in or recruit more and more people to join under them.
Make these new recruits to invest at higher level, telling them that they
can earn alot in return. But in actual fact, they just want to reach a new level
with these new recruits...
What sucks more is that, these upline distributors don't keep their words
and leave their new recruits in despair and at total loss.
Just like Erik who mailed in on his friend's sister and her boyfriend.
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Hi,
I am glad that these had been turn up, as i was previously franchise of lampe berger,being introduce by a friend sister, i started to realize it was a scam and start to wake up to reality after a year or so, we can see why those claim they earn thousand of thousand,but still they travel from penang to KL with buses, go up n down with buses, cant even afford to buy a house but rent a room even MARQUIS or DUKE. and latest i heard they even bought BMW for those achiever just to attract new comer, wonder how true that is.
the most important i need to share is my friend sister and her boy friend, they both own 2 hawker stall earning quite a good amount of money every month, but ever since her bf get introduce into LB, they stop their hawker business and full time into LB. their uplines, a so call WELL EDUCATED engineer, the want who keep pushing them to be Counts, these couple doesnt have enough money to get onto COUNT but these upline keep pushing, even borrow money to them, when the starting stage, these upline are damn tricky, he are good to u on the start, when he already achieve as a marquis, shit start to happen, after these upline achieve as a marquis, he left these couple alone running around, fighting month and month alone without help from upline, they started to be on debt ever since, even borrow money from her own brother my friend, and now they have to give up and start all over again..and guess what , that FARKER still dare to call em up collect those money which he borrowed which are from LOAN SHARK!!beware..i don know how r they doing now but then the last time i met them, they were under a new upline from taiwan,they claim that these new upline are good in build up..wateva man, i am wishing them getting back in reality, or mayb shud start back their own business..
i myself only got cheated for 2k plus, a 2k plus a good experience i had took, and realize there is no CEPAT KAYA, KEEP IT REAL guyz..
Regards,
Erik
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Well, Erik, I do hope your friend's sister and her bf will get on their feet again and strive for a new living. It is never too late to return to normal life and start all over again.
It's Never Too Soon To Quit.
Even though there is, there are sure to be any terms bound to it.
These terms are often not told by the introducer.
In DCHL/Lampe Berger, there are many ways these upline distributors try
to bring in or recruit more and more people to join under them.
Make these new recruits to invest at higher level, telling them that they
can earn alot in return. But in actual fact, they just want to reach a new level
with these new recruits...
What sucks more is that, these upline distributors don't keep their words
and leave their new recruits in despair and at total loss.
Just like Erik who mailed in on his friend's sister and her boyfriend.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am glad that these had been turn up, as i was previously franchise of lampe berger,being introduce by a friend sister, i started to realize it was a scam and start to wake up to reality after a year or so, we can see why those claim they earn thousand of thousand,but still they travel from penang to KL with buses, go up n down with buses, cant even afford to buy a house but rent a room even MARQUIS or DUKE. and latest i heard they even bought BMW for those achiever just to attract new comer, wonder how true that is.
the most important i need to share is my friend sister and her boy friend, they both own 2 hawker stall earning quite a good amount of money every month, but ever since her bf get introduce into LB, they stop their hawker business and full time into LB. their uplines, a so call WELL EDUCATED engineer, the want who keep pushing them to be Counts, these couple doesnt have enough money to get onto COUNT but these upline keep pushing, even borrow money to them, when the starting stage, these upline are damn tricky, he are good to u on the start, when he already achieve as a marquis, shit start to happen, after these upline achieve as a marquis, he left these couple alone running around, fighting month and month alone without help from upline, they started to be on debt ever since, even borrow money from her own brother my friend, and now they have to give up and start all over again..and guess what , that FARKER still dare to call em up collect those money which he borrowed which are from LOAN SHARK!!beware..i don know how r they doing now but then the last time i met them, they were under a new upline from taiwan,they claim that these new upline are good in build up..wateva man, i am wishing them getting back in reality, or mayb shud start back their own business..
i myself only got cheated for 2k plus, a 2k plus a good experience i had took, and realize there is no CEPAT KAYA, KEEP IT REAL guyz..
Regards,
Erik
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Well, Erik, I do hope your friend's sister and her bf will get on their feet again and strive for a new living. It is never too late to return to normal life and start all over again.
It's Never Too Soon To Quit.
Friday, April 28, 2006
4 reasons to hate DCHL/Lampe Berger...
This mail was received days ago..
Took me awhile to post it up..
Have a good read..
Oh..
This blog has reached 6000 visitor hits from 54 countries. WOOT!
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Hello, all of you did such a great job in your blog. Just to share with you
one of my small experience, is nothing compare to the rest of you.
I have one of this friend who join Lampe Berger. After this, I noticed that
there is severe change in his behaviour, etc. He seemed to be very excited
and start dreaming to retired soon, etc...even my customers who is multi -
millionaire has never dreamt to retire and still working even though their
age has already over 55 years old (as I m from the Petrochemical industry,
I have lots of customers in the Malaysia plastic industry).
After I start sharing some truth face about this lampe berger thing, he has
chose to shut his mind off and then until now never contacted me just because
I do not favour this lampe berger thing.
Even though I have known lots of MLMs thing for example Amways,
Cosway, etc...simply because they are focused on products.
I'm against lampe berger for the following reasons:
1. As I always heard from them, they are not there to sell products but
merely recruiting people. (sound like a fast rich scheme to me).
2. I do not like the idea of forcing people to fork up their hard earn
money for necessary things like lamp. Even RM 2k is not a small amount.
What more RM30k. (look like a money scam to me). What a crook!!
3. For lots of others product from other MLMs such as Amway, they do have
the benefit as per claim. However, for lampe berger claim like can kill
bacteria, etc. I found out it is mostly false claim.
4. I am also against product sell at one location via retails and another
location via MLM. What I am more against is those selling at retails is
cheaper. If it is the other way round, it doesn't matter.
Lastly, for those that stuck at this and lost their money, I suggest that
if they felt being mislead into this business via false information, etc.
either by their uplines or the company, they can sue them for
misrepresentation at court and demand for compensation. If it is the
uplines that mislead you, sue the uplines and if it is the company who
mislead you, sue the company. I am currently also Law student from
University of Londan. Therefore, I know what I am talking about in legal
term. Just find a good lawyer for this case, no need to worry on the legal
fees as the loser in the court will need to pay for everything.
Thank you.
Regards,
Roy
Took me awhile to post it up..
Have a good read..
Oh..
This blog has reached 6000 visitor hits from 54 countries. WOOT!
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Hello, all of you did such a great job in your blog. Just to share with you
one of my small experience, is nothing compare to the rest of you.
I have one of this friend who join Lampe Berger. After this, I noticed that
there is severe change in his behaviour, etc. He seemed to be very excited
and start dreaming to retired soon, etc...even my customers who is multi -
millionaire has never dreamt to retire and still working even though their
age has already over 55 years old (as I m from the Petrochemical industry,
I have lots of customers in the Malaysia plastic industry).
After I start sharing some truth face about this lampe berger thing, he has
chose to shut his mind off and then until now never contacted me just because
I do not favour this lampe berger thing.
Even though I have known lots of MLMs thing for example Amways,
Cosway, etc...simply because they are focused on products.
I'm against lampe berger for the following reasons:
1. As I always heard from them, they are not there to sell products but
merely recruiting people. (sound like a fast rich scheme to me).
2. I do not like the idea of forcing people to fork up their hard earn
money for necessary things like lamp. Even RM 2k is not a small amount.
What more RM30k. (look like a money scam to me). What a crook!!
3. For lots of others product from other MLMs such as Amway, they do have
the benefit as per claim. However, for lampe berger claim like can kill
bacteria, etc. I found out it is mostly false claim.
4. I am also against product sell at one location via retails and another
location via MLM. What I am more against is those selling at retails is
cheaper. If it is the other way round, it doesn't matter.
Lastly, for those that stuck at this and lost their money, I suggest that
if they felt being mislead into this business via false information, etc.
either by their uplines or the company, they can sue them for
misrepresentation at court and demand for compensation. If it is the
uplines that mislead you, sue the uplines and if it is the company who
mislead you, sue the company. I am currently also Law student from
University of Londan. Therefore, I know what I am talking about in legal
term. Just find a good lawyer for this case, no need to worry on the legal
fees as the loser in the court will need to pay for everything.
Thank you.
Regards,
Roy
Royal Rumble on DCHL/Lampe Berger
I've got a very heated exchange of comments on my previous post as well
as in DCHL/Lampe Berger BAD EXPERIENCE.
The rumblers are dexter, metal steed rider, Anonymous and many others.
You guys are my loyal readers.. and I do thank you for reading and
exchanging your views on your own personal insight.
Anonymous,
First of all, this site is created to CREATE AWARENESS on the many
mis-conduct and un-ethical distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger.
Of course, with the so many case of re-fund that many are unable to claim
so as the many dirty tricks that up-line uses to bring in new recruits and
not FULLY INFORM the new recruits of the terms & conditions layed down,
we still cannot find a real good case against them.
Why?
Simple... agreement is there, and once any party signed, it is already said
that they are bound by the agreement.
To avoid this, we created this site, to show the people that, they must
look into all the details before joining, by looking at the past how people
suffered because of the small agreement stated in the sign-up form
Dexter and others, there is no need to argue, who is right and who is wrong.
We don't need to challenge these current distributors on what are the real
past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and OHK Associates.
What I've posted up here is more than suffice to tell others what are the
real past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and their current practices.
Going to court, is just a waste of time. For all you know, you might win the
case, but they will be telling you that, none of those who has been affected
didn't state their claims and so on.. thus leading them to victory.
Their legal terms & conditions are real true binding agreement that can be
used to avoid any legal matters. I've seen it, read it and even signed it.
Going through agan, I found out that, there is way no point for me to bring
my own personal matters with my up-lines to court because I know, I can't
win over them due to their legal terms & conditions stated.
Even my lawyer said, I would have a very slim chance to win, because I don't
have solid proofs and black & white agreement between me and my up-lines.
I've said enough.. I leave the rest to all of you..
as in DCHL/Lampe Berger BAD EXPERIENCE.
The rumblers are dexter, metal steed rider, Anonymous and many others.
You guys are my loyal readers.. and I do thank you for reading and
exchanging your views on your own personal insight.
Anonymous,
First of all, this site is created to CREATE AWARENESS on the many
mis-conduct and un-ethical distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger.
Of course, with the so many case of re-fund that many are unable to claim
so as the many dirty tricks that up-line uses to bring in new recruits and
not FULLY INFORM the new recruits of the terms & conditions layed down,
we still cannot find a real good case against them.
Why?
Simple... agreement is there, and once any party signed, it is already said
that they are bound by the agreement.
To avoid this, we created this site, to show the people that, they must
look into all the details before joining, by looking at the past how people
suffered because of the small agreement stated in the sign-up form
Dexter and others, there is no need to argue, who is right and who is wrong.
We don't need to challenge these current distributors on what are the real
past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and OHK Associates.
What I've posted up here is more than suffice to tell others what are the
real past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and their current practices.
Going to court, is just a waste of time. For all you know, you might win the
case, but they will be telling you that, none of those who has been affected
didn't state their claims and so on.. thus leading them to victory.
Their legal terms & conditions are real true binding agreement that can be
used to avoid any legal matters. I've seen it, read it and even signed it.
Going through agan, I found out that, there is way no point for me to bring
my own personal matters with my up-lines to court because I know, I can't
win over them due to their legal terms & conditions stated.
Even my lawyer said, I would have a very slim chance to win, because I don't
have solid proofs and black & white agreement between me and my up-lines.
I've said enough.. I leave the rest to all of you..
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
worried pal : HELP!!
A worried pal asked me for help..
I do try my best as I could to assist..
So far, after his/her first mail, I've never receive anything more.
I shall post it up for you all to read and see if you can give any
CONSTRUCTIVE comments please..
I don't want flaming nor hate comments.. even if you have lots of them.
I would suggest that "Diplomacy is the best policy".
Shoot..!!
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Hi Lampe Berger Help,
my poor colleague had just invested 30K and quitting her promising full time job for LB. Do you have any story in mandarin, b'cos she is chinese educated cant read English.
I have heard a lot of bad experiences prior to visiting your website.
I am trying very hard to convince her that LB is not her cup tea but she and her boyfriend are so obsess that she borrowed 30K from her mother hard earn savings.
She told me that she is going to be a distributor in Muar, isn't she invested to be count?
Correct me if I am wrong, she says they promise 90% refund if she can't make it in 6 months,
has anybody successfully got their refunds?
Please advice on procedure on getting refunds.
Please advice me on how to convince her not to immerse further.
Regards,
worried pal
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Hie worried pal,
I am sure your friend has really been convinced with hard brainwashing or either she trust that upline of hers so that she invested.
Money can really move people, and it will make people make decision in rash.
Calvin, Steven.. can you guys help?
Calvin, you can write something up in chinese in your blog?
Or maybe take one of my blog's case and translate it to your site?
worried pal, if you have not notice or u might, there are two other blogs available.
http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com
http://lampblogger.blogspot.com
Re-fund, i would say.. near 50% of them who ask don't get it.
because of the UNSAID or UNTOLD agreement to the downline.
Make sure, the lamps that she is holding is re-fundable.
Signature lamps can't be re-funded so as promotional items.
Make sure she understands and read all the agreements.. as I know they are all in English..
Which would be a problem to her, since she don't know how to read English.
Re-fund can be done with a letter of intention to re-fund to the company, RZ Corporation.
I shall end here now and let you digest abit..
Hear from you soon.
I still yet to get a reply.
Rgds,
LB Help
This colour can see ah?
What about this?
Hmmmmm???
Am just playing around with colours.. Enjoyable abit ma..
I do try my best as I could to assist..
So far, after his/her first mail, I've never receive anything more.
I shall post it up for you all to read and see if you can give any
CONSTRUCTIVE comments please..
I don't want flaming nor hate comments.. even if you have lots of them.
I would suggest that "Diplomacy is the best policy".
Shoot..!!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Lampe Berger Help,
my poor colleague had just invested 30K and quitting her promising full time job for LB. Do you have any story in mandarin, b'cos she is chinese educated cant read English.
I have heard a lot of bad experiences prior to visiting your website.
I am trying very hard to convince her that LB is not her cup tea but she and her boyfriend are so obsess that she borrowed 30K from her mother hard earn savings.
She told me that she is going to be a distributor in Muar, isn't she invested to be count?
Correct me if I am wrong, she says they promise 90% refund if she can't make it in 6 months,
has anybody successfully got their refunds?
Please advice on procedure on getting refunds.
Please advice me on how to convince her not to immerse further.
Regards,
worried pal
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hie worried pal,
I am sure your friend has really been convinced with hard brainwashing or either she trust that upline of hers so that she invested.
Money can really move people, and it will make people make decision in rash.
Calvin, Steven.. can you guys help?
Calvin, you can write something up in chinese in your blog?
Or maybe take one of my blog's case and translate it to your site?
worried pal, if you have not notice or u might, there are two other blogs available.
http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com
http://lampblogger.blogspot.com
Re-fund, i would say.. near 50% of them who ask don't get it.
because of the UNSAID or UNTOLD agreement to the downline.
Make sure, the lamps that she is holding is re-fundable.
Signature lamps can't be re-funded so as promotional items.
Make sure she understands and read all the agreements.. as I know they are all in English..
Which would be a problem to her, since she don't know how to read English.
Re-fund can be done with a letter of intention to re-fund to the company, RZ Corporation.
I shall end here now and let you digest abit..
Hear from you soon.
I still yet to get a reply.
Rgds,
LB Help
This colour can see ah?
What about this?
Hmmmmm???
Am just playing around with colours.. Enjoyable abit ma..
Monday, April 24, 2006
Anonymous reader's comment
Internet at home is down, and well, there are so many post to write.
But I shall start off with this one. More to come...
One anonymous reader gave a comment on my previous post.
He might have his points there, but at certain points, I can't help
but reply him from this post itself. Mine will be in bold and italic
Read.. oh.. please bear with the language...
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there's cunning person in every industry,
what if u are a doctor today?A doc earns money too,in same he's not any good too.Some are even worse,selling mc,selling med at high price,lazy to consult patient...If it's that good,don't earn any profit.Or shall i judge you doctors, is a professional cheater?
Yes, in every industry there are un-ethical one and ethical ones. Please do stick to my main point of judgement in this blog. It is towards the many un-ethical ones in DCHL/Lampe Berger. I can even start a blog on un-ethical doctors, but no. Sorry, I haven't encounter any doctor where I need to pay them first and then receive consultation. Most of the visits are pay later.
What's wrong for Steven Yeam to donate?When some of u do nothing and talking about ppl?Are you guys earning anything by talking bullshit about ppl?But i'm sure of one thing.
Steven will thanks to those anti lampe berger because they 're u guys,he'll be laughing.
it's a secret where non ordinary can reveal. <- huh?
There is nothing wrong of Steven Yeam to donate. Oh, maybe those other readers who see it is wrong, but not wrong to me. Maybe a little more than RM 100k would be good for a self-made millionaire, or shall I say, soon-to-be billionaire. And we are here not talking bullshit about people, and we don't earn anything as stated on my exclusion clause at the bottom of the page. Please take time to read the whole website..!! Things stated here, are facts given by real people in real life who has the sense to think rationally.
Finally there's one more thing,lampe berger is not steven.Steven is not lampe berger.If u hate lampe berger, pls complain to the headquaters in France. Oh.. don't you worry, done that.
One more single thing i'll touch about is, refund. There's refund but with applied terms. There you go people!! READ!! Supermarket in uk have this term refund too.But do u think they'll refund easily.Of course NOT!!!
Hmm, we don't hate Lampe Berger. In fact, we hate those who spoils the name of Lampe Berger in this region.. and guess who holds the largest network in this region? ---> STEVEN YEAM!
And, I remember him saying, "Without you all, there is no SYN" So, there isn't a link?
You tell me anonymous!!
Who will refund to u in the way u are just trying for fun? Huh?But in DCHL yes. do refund if it's reasonable. it's a neutral point of view,believe good things is better than not to believe.
Because only from believe there are aeroplanes.
Oh, let me tell you. The main reason why people can't get their re-fund is because there are distributors who are un-ethical enough to treat their downlines like dumbshit and give them stocks that can't be return. What's worst is they neglected the term "responsibility" upon signing in new distributor under him/her.
Are you the ethical one or un-ethical one?
But I shall start off with this one. More to come...
One anonymous reader gave a comment on my previous post.
He might have his points there, but at certain points, I can't help
but reply him from this post itself. Mine will be in bold and italic
Read.. oh.. please bear with the language...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
there's cunning person in every industry,
what if u are a doctor today?A doc earns money too,in same he's not any good too.Some are even worse,selling mc,selling med at high price,lazy to consult patient...If it's that good,don't earn any profit.Or shall i judge you doctors, is a professional cheater?
Yes, in every industry there are un-ethical one and ethical ones. Please do stick to my main point of judgement in this blog. It is towards the many un-ethical ones in DCHL/Lampe Berger. I can even start a blog on un-ethical doctors, but no. Sorry, I haven't encounter any doctor where I need to pay them first and then receive consultation. Most of the visits are pay later.
What's wrong for Steven Yeam to donate?When some of u do nothing and talking about ppl?Are you guys earning anything by talking bullshit about ppl?But i'm sure of one thing.
Steven will thanks to those anti lampe berger because they 're u guys,he'll be laughing.
it's a secret where non ordinary can reveal. <- huh?
There is nothing wrong of Steven Yeam to donate. Oh, maybe those other readers who see it is wrong, but not wrong to me. Maybe a little more than RM 100k would be good for a self-made millionaire, or shall I say, soon-to-be billionaire. And we are here not talking bullshit about people, and we don't earn anything as stated on my exclusion clause at the bottom of the page. Please take time to read the whole website..!! Things stated here, are facts given by real people in real life who has the sense to think rationally.
Finally there's one more thing,lampe berger is not steven.Steven is not lampe berger.If u hate lampe berger, pls complain to the headquaters in France. Oh.. don't you worry, done that.
One more single thing i'll touch about is, refund. There's refund but with applied terms. There you go people!! READ!! Supermarket in uk have this term refund too.But do u think they'll refund easily.Of course NOT!!!
Hmm, we don't hate Lampe Berger. In fact, we hate those who spoils the name of Lampe Berger in this region.. and guess who holds the largest network in this region? ---> STEVEN YEAM!
And, I remember him saying, "Without you all, there is no SYN" So, there isn't a link?
You tell me anonymous!!
Who will refund to u in the way u are just trying for fun? Huh?But in DCHL yes. do refund if it's reasonable. it's a neutral point of view,believe good things is better than not to believe.
Because only from believe there are aeroplanes.
Oh, let me tell you. The main reason why people can't get their re-fund is because there are distributors who are un-ethical enough to treat their downlines like dumbshit and give them stocks that can't be return. What's worst is they neglected the term "responsibility" upon signing in new distributor under him/her.
Are you the ethical one or un-ethical one?
Monday, April 17, 2006
DCHL/Lampe Berger BAD EXPERIENCE
Sorry to keep u all waiting so eagerly, especially duke.. :p
Now, this person has gone through a lot more than what we all did.
I feel for his pain and his anger as well...
If, it would be me, I would be like Steven, running into the office
and shouting his name like crazy fella and ask him to return all my
money, and scold him cheater and so forth directly there itself.
Don't care the shotgun-held guard. My shotgun is bigger.. hahaha
But oh wellz, Diplomatic is the best policy.. so here goes the story
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Hi LB Help,
Thanks for sharing your story. My case was worse than yours. Like
loan-shark only. Anyway you should ask your upline to pay you back RM3k
from his own pocket because he cheated you. If he tries to put the blame
on you by saying you didn't work or whatever just say you don't care
because he took your stock and cheated you. You should ask him, ask his
family, continue to bug him... where does he live? I hate these kinda
people man.
My story is like this,
My upline took me to the LB office to listen to their marketting plan,
at that time I was the very first upline he approached and he sounded
very nice... caring... willing to help me do the business... he agreed
to lend me the capital of RM2xxx to start the business because I told
him I had not enough money to start and he told me that I can pay him
back only when I got the money from the business because he had faith in
me.
So oklor I was thinking what the heck man I pay a little but get the
stock from him which is worth even more... so okla I went to listen to
the thing and he told me ok pay him RM150 first he will lend me the rest
so I did lor... I paid him RM150.
After few days he came back and told me some reason he couldn't sign me
up la asked for RM600 instead... so oklor I gave him RM600 and then
continue going for the meetings and NDO and all that crap. Finally he
said his upline told him that uplines cannot lend money to downlines
because it's not allowed in their business so he asked me to fork out
RM2xxx lor.. and I was stuck because all my money was already with him
and he told me that he already used the money to register me as a buying
member. Later I found out it was fake because the money was with him all
the while. So I was stuck la.
I decided to use credit card to pay. I had cash but I needed the cash
for something else. Even then he asked me to use my cash and assured me
I could earn back my cash in time. Now I think about it, good thing I
didn't trust him otherwise I would not have any money left.
So okla I swiped card but he cheated me as well. As you know Counts are
allowed to sell their stock to their downlines but then they can only
accept cash right? He didn't tell me this fact either. No wonder he kept
telling me if can pay cash better la because paying by credit card would
be very inconvenient for him. And that also means I must take whatever
stock he has so I can't choose my oil or lamp. So I still swiped card at
the counter but then I didn't swipe it for my own product. He made me
swipe for RM2xxx worth of products which other uplines wanted to buy
from LB. I swiped and his uplines gave him the cash of RM2xxx for the
products which I have just swiped for.
The downside to this is, I do not have any receipt from LB for my
purchases so then I cannot return for my refund right? My receipt from
LB were for the products for his uplines which I had swiped my card for.
So I was stuck la how to refund?
So after that I felt very cheated coz of all these facts he was hiding
from me while he was asking me to go gather the cash. I feel very angry.
What can I do about this? I can give you my DHCL number but I need to
search for it coz I deleted and burned all my LB related stuff already.
If you want to know my upline I can provide you information about him.
Thanks.
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*no editing made :P except my name...*
Hey, I would love to bug him, but, I'm rather nice, and wait for the time to
make this whole matter big and thus not only him will face the concequences
but the whole team...
So, all my dear readers.. You've read and this is to me, the worst I've heard
so far since starting this blog..
I'm yet to hear any suicide case.. but I would never doubt it would never
happen in the near future...
YOUR SAY PEOPLE...
Now, this person has gone through a lot more than what we all did.
I feel for his pain and his anger as well...
If, it would be me, I would be like Steven, running into the office
and shouting his name like crazy fella and ask him to return all my
money, and scold him cheater and so forth directly there itself.
Don't care the shotgun-held guard. My shotgun is bigger.. hahaha
But oh wellz, Diplomatic is the best policy.. so here goes the story
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi LB Help,
Thanks for sharing your story. My case was worse than yours. Like
loan-shark only. Anyway you should ask your upline to pay you back RM3k
from his own pocket because he cheated you. If he tries to put the blame
on you by saying you didn't work or whatever just say you don't care
because he took your stock and cheated you. You should ask him, ask his
family, continue to bug him... where does he live? I hate these kinda
people man.
My story is like this,
My upline took me to the LB office to listen to their marketting plan,
at that time I was the very first upline he approached and he sounded
very nice... caring... willing to help me do the business... he agreed
to lend me the capital of RM2xxx to start the business because I told
him I had not enough money to start and he told me that I can pay him
back only when I got the money from the business because he had faith in
me.
So oklor I was thinking what the heck man I pay a little but get the
stock from him which is worth even more... so okla I went to listen to
the thing and he told me ok pay him RM150 first he will lend me the rest
so I did lor... I paid him RM150.
After few days he came back and told me some reason he couldn't sign me
up la asked for RM600 instead... so oklor I gave him RM600 and then
continue going for the meetings and NDO and all that crap. Finally he
said his upline told him that uplines cannot lend money to downlines
because it's not allowed in their business so he asked me to fork out
RM2xxx lor.. and I was stuck because all my money was already with him
and he told me that he already used the money to register me as a buying
member. Later I found out it was fake because the money was with him all
the while. So I was stuck la.
I decided to use credit card to pay. I had cash but I needed the cash
for something else. Even then he asked me to use my cash and assured me
I could earn back my cash in time. Now I think about it, good thing I
didn't trust him otherwise I would not have any money left.
So okla I swiped card but he cheated me as well. As you know Counts are
allowed to sell their stock to their downlines but then they can only
accept cash right? He didn't tell me this fact either. No wonder he kept
telling me if can pay cash better la because paying by credit card would
be very inconvenient for him. And that also means I must take whatever
stock he has so I can't choose my oil or lamp. So I still swiped card at
the counter but then I didn't swipe it for my own product. He made me
swipe for RM2xxx worth of products which other uplines wanted to buy
from LB. I swiped and his uplines gave him the cash of RM2xxx for the
products which I have just swiped for.
The downside to this is, I do not have any receipt from LB for my
purchases so then I cannot return for my refund right? My receipt from
LB were for the products for his uplines which I had swiped my card for.
So I was stuck la how to refund?
So after that I felt very cheated coz of all these facts he was hiding
from me while he was asking me to go gather the cash. I feel very angry.
What can I do about this? I can give you my DHCL number but I need to
search for it coz I deleted and burned all my LB related stuff already.
If you want to know my upline I can provide you information about him.
Thanks.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*no editing made :P except my name...*
Hey, I would love to bug him, but, I'm rather nice, and wait for the time to
make this whole matter big and thus not only him will face the concequences
but the whole team...
So, all my dear readers.. You've read and this is to me, the worst I've heard
so far since starting this blog..
I'm yet to hear any suicide case.. but I would never doubt it would never
happen in the near future...
YOUR SAY PEOPLE...
DCHL/Lampe Berger experience...
A reader sent in an e-mail, giving us his comment on his experience while
he was in DCHL for 2 years...
He has seen the bright side and choose rather not to continue his effort in
DCHL/Lampe Berger. Reason? It is a very personal reason for himself...
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Hi!
I'm here not to condemn anyone, just want to share my story....
I joined DCHL 2-3 years ago. Since I joined it, I became very positive thinking and aggresive in my life. Always thinking of becoming rich, thus having plenty of free time in the future and many many more which now I know these are all about bullshit dream.
Why would I joined DCHL? I believe everyone has their own dream to improve their live. They (members in DCHL) take this as a opportunity to stimulate our will to achieve it by persuading us to join DCHL, saying a lot of positive aspect and with the influences of other distributors of DCHL.
Finally I (or most of them) became confident and joined DCHL.........
After trying to put in effort for almost 2 years, I finally realised that to be successed in MLM is really not as easy as they said and very subjected to your own characterictic and of course luck also. For those who seems to be successed, actually is not. A lot of them is just pretend to be success and for those who as succeeded, we will never know the true story on how he did it although they keep on telling us the story of how he succeeded. What I want to say here is, they will never tell us the hidden cost and the 'dirty' way to do it.
I've not cheated by anyone in LB instead, I gained alot of friends. I didn't blame my sponsor because all of us is experiencing the same situation....he/she may also join DCHL for the same reason ==> influenced by others....
The influencing is very dangerous cause, something that's is not true, but with the influences of a big crowd may make us feel that it is good and true....
But fortunately, I awakened now and just concentrate on my work and trying to clear my debt (mosy of it from DCHL). Now I really know what is mean by ' 平淡是福 '........luckily is not too late......
So dear friends, please open up you eye before you make any decision to join MLM....MLM is not the only way to improve our life.....
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true that persuasion and influence from other distributors are the factors
making people believe that this whole system will work for them.
Thus, when "seeing is believing" struck their eyes, they too join the team.
This reader pointed out that "A lot of them is just pretend to be success"
Now, I wouldn't disagree with his point of view as it is proven to be true.
Showing off of BMW, act like they are earning 5-10K a month, when they
are actually not there yet.. How true his statement is..
I've actually been there and done that...
Now, looking back, I can only laugh at myself
It is good this reader has now awakened and concentrating on his work now.
Rather than some of the distributors in there keep on struggling, while they
are not making a stable income out of it. What hurts more is they leave their
conventional job and try to make a living "full-time" in DCHL/Lampe Berger.
Which to me is a big NO-NO. Why would you want to leave a job which give
you stable income monthly and opt for a job which does not?
Different people would have a different preference in their lifestyle.
Sometimes, it is just mankind in us that we want something that we don't
possess. When we are poor, we want to be rich. We don't have a BMW,
we want them. We are rich, we want to be richer. It is just us...
So, friends, distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger, shall I re-quote again,
"MLM is not the only way to improve our life....."
*Thanks reader for the e-mail*
he was in DCHL for 2 years...
He has seen the bright side and choose rather not to continue his effort in
DCHL/Lampe Berger. Reason? It is a very personal reason for himself...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi!
I'm here not to condemn anyone, just want to share my story....
I joined DCHL 2-3 years ago. Since I joined it, I became very positive thinking and aggresive in my life. Always thinking of becoming rich, thus having plenty of free time in the future and many many more which now I know these are all about bullshit dream.
Why would I joined DCHL? I believe everyone has their own dream to improve their live. They (members in DCHL) take this as a opportunity to stimulate our will to achieve it by persuading us to join DCHL, saying a lot of positive aspect and with the influences of other distributors of DCHL.
Finally I (or most of them) became confident and joined DCHL.........
After trying to put in effort for almost 2 years, I finally realised that to be successed in MLM is really not as easy as they said and very subjected to your own characterictic and of course luck also. For those who seems to be successed, actually is not. A lot of them is just pretend to be success and for those who as succeeded, we will never know the true story on how he did it although they keep on telling us the story of how he succeeded. What I want to say here is, they will never tell us the hidden cost and the 'dirty' way to do it.
I've not cheated by anyone in LB instead, I gained alot of friends. I didn't blame my sponsor because all of us is experiencing the same situation....he/she may also join DCHL for the same reason ==> influenced by others....
The influencing is very dangerous cause, something that's is not true, but with the influences of a big crowd may make us feel that it is good and true....
But fortunately, I awakened now and just concentrate on my work and trying to clear my debt (mosy of it from DCHL). Now I really know what is mean by ' 平淡是福 '........luckily is not too late......
So dear friends, please open up you eye before you make any decision to join MLM....MLM is not the only way to improve our life.....
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true that persuasion and influence from other distributors are the factors
making people believe that this whole system will work for them.
Thus, when "seeing is believing" struck their eyes, they too join the team.
This reader pointed out that "A lot of them is just pretend to be success"
Now, I wouldn't disagree with his point of view as it is proven to be true.
Showing off of BMW, act like they are earning 5-10K a month, when they
are actually not there yet.. How true his statement is..
I've actually been there and done that...
Now, looking back, I can only laugh at myself
It is good this reader has now awakened and concentrating on his work now.
Rather than some of the distributors in there keep on struggling, while they
are not making a stable income out of it. What hurts more is they leave their
conventional job and try to make a living "full-time" in DCHL/Lampe Berger.
Which to me is a big NO-NO. Why would you want to leave a job which give
you stable income monthly and opt for a job which does not?
Different people would have a different preference in their lifestyle.
Sometimes, it is just mankind in us that we want something that we don't
possess. When we are poor, we want to be rich. We don't have a BMW,
we want them. We are rich, we want to be richer. It is just us...
So, friends, distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger, shall I re-quote again,
"MLM is not the only way to improve our life....."
*Thanks reader for the e-mail*
Friday, April 14, 2006
missing complaint? or not made known?
It is reported yesterday that, the highest complaints received by our
local complaints department is on Lucky Draws scheme, reported TheSun.
Now where is the percentage for "Direct Selling"? Or it is either clasified as "Recruitment Agencies" or "Others" under the Services???
Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry secretary-general Datuk Seri Talaat Hussain said complaints against such schemes and scams accounted for a quarter of the total 6,106 claims on goods and services filed with the Consumer Claims Tribunal last year."Some of the companies are not easy to identify due to the way they operate"
In all, the tribunal received 1,515 claims against operators of such schemes, many of which were dubious.
"Some of the companies are not easy to identify due to the way they operate," he said.
"Some are not registered and even if they are, the contest they organised hinges between legal and illegal.
"And, most of those who have been cheated would not make a report, probably due to embarassment.
"But when there are reports, the tribunal will sit and deliver the necessary judgments."
Well, you need to open your eyes wider and bigger Datuk!!...
And, most of those who have been cheated would not make a report, probably due to embarassment.
I do agree with this statement tho..
Now, why I put up this post?
Because I find it so similar to the problems many are facing with DCHL/Lampe Berger. Why not many would want to complaint, and also there are many too who don't even know where to go about..
I've post it up once here "Solutions to Re-Funds" one of the solutions...
There are still many ways to go about with this matter of un-ethical distributors and so forth on DCHL/Lampe Berger. Just like this brochure below..
It is the number of the Ministry of Domectic Trade and Consumer Affairs.
To COMPLAINT, call 03 - 4043 6888 or 03 - 4043 7888
TOLL-FREE NUMBER 1-800-886-800
Complaint about wat? What else?!!!
Maybe, they next time they publish another news in the near future, DCHL
will be listed there? haha
I shall let you all ponder on what our government say on Direct Selling or "Jualan Langsung" as well as Pyramid... pictures below..
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