NO CEPAT KAYA, KEEP IT REAL...

Well, I do agree that there isn't any "Get rich quick scheme".
Even though there is, there are sure to be any terms bound to it.
These terms are often not told by the introducer.

In DCHL/Lampe Berger, there are many ways these upline distributors try
to bring in or recruit more and more people to join under them.
Make these new recruits to invest at higher level, telling them that they
can earn alot in return. But in actual fact, they just want to reach a new level
with these new recruits...
What sucks more is that, these upline distributors don't keep their words
and leave their new recruits in despair and at total loss.

Just like Erik who mailed in on his friend's sister and her boyfriend.
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Hi,

I am glad that these had been turn up, as i was previously franchise of lampe berger,being introduce by a friend sister, i started to realize it was a scam and start to wake up to reality after a year or so, we can see why those claim they earn thousand of thousand,but still they travel from penang to KL with buses, go up n down with buses, cant even afford to buy a house but rent a room even MARQUIS or DUKE. and latest i heard they even bought BMW for those achiever just to attract new comer, wonder how true that is.

the most important i need to share is my friend sister and her boy friend, they both own 2 hawker stall earning quite a good amount of money every month, but ever since her bf get introduce into LB, they stop their hawker business and full time into LB. their uplines, a so call WELL EDUCATED engineer, the want who keep pushing them to be Counts, these couple doesnt have enough money to get onto COUNT but these upline keep pushing, even borrow money to them, when the starting stage, these upline are damn tricky, he are good to u on the start, when he already achieve as a marquis, shit start to happen, after these upline achieve as a marquis, he left these couple alone running around, fighting month and month alone without help from upline, they started to be on debt ever since, even borrow money from her own brother my friend, and now they have to give up and start all over again..and guess what , that FARKER still dare to call em up collect those money which he borrowed which are from LOAN SHARK!!beware..i don know how r they doing now but then the last time i met them, they were under a new upline from taiwan,they claim that these new upline are good in build up..wateva man, i am wishing them getting back in reality, or mayb shud start back their own business..

i myself only got cheated for 2k plus, a 2k plus a good experience i had took, and realize there is no CEPAT KAYA, KEEP IT REAL guyz..

Regards,
Erik
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Well, Erik, I do hope your friend's sister and her bf will get on their feet again and strive for a new living. It is never too late to return to normal life and start all over again.

It's Never Too Soon To Quit.

4 reasons to hate DCHL/Lampe Berger...

This mail was received days ago..
Took me awhile to post it up..
Have a good read..

Oh..
This blog has reached 6000 visitor hits from 54 countries. WOOT!
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Hello, all of you did such a great job in your blog. Just to share with you
one of my small experience, is nothing compare to the rest of you.

I have one of this friend who join Lampe Berger. After this, I noticed that
there is severe change in his behaviour, etc. He seemed to be very excited
and start dreaming to retired soon, etc...even my customers who is multi -
millionaire has never dreamt to retire and still working even though their
age has already over 55 years old (as I m from the Petrochemical industry,
I have lots of customers in the Malaysia plastic industry).
After I start sharing some truth face about this lampe berger thing, he has
chose to shut his mind off and then until now never contacted me just because
I do not favour this lampe berger thing.
Even though I have known lots of MLMs thing for example Amways,
Cosway, etc...simply because they are focused on products.

I'm against lampe berger for the following reasons:
1. As I always heard from them, they are not there to sell products but
merely recruiting people. (sound like a fast rich scheme to me).

2. I do not like the idea of forcing people to fork up their hard earn
money for necessary things like lamp. Even RM 2k is not a small amount.
What more RM30k. (look like a money scam to me). What a crook!!

3. For lots of others product from other MLMs such as Amway, they do have
the benefit as per claim. However, for lampe berger claim like can kill
bacteria, etc. I found out it is mostly false claim.

4. I am also against product sell at one location via retails and another
location via MLM. What I am more against is those selling at retails is
cheaper. If it is the other way round, it doesn't matter.

Lastly, for those that stuck at this and lost their money, I suggest that
if they felt being mislead into this business via false information, etc.
either by their uplines or the company, they can sue them for
misrepresentation at court and demand for compensation. If it is the
uplines that mislead you, sue the uplines and if it is the company who
mislead you, sue the company. I am currently also Law student from
University of Londan. Therefore, I know what I am talking about in legal
term. Just find a good lawyer for this case, no need to worry on the legal
fees as the loser in the court will need to pay for everything.

Thank you.

Regards,
Roy

Royal Rumble on DCHL/Lampe Berger

I've got a very heated exchange of comments on my previous post as well
as in DCHL/Lampe Berger BAD EXPERIENCE.

The rumblers are dexter, metal steed rider, Anonymous and many others.

You guys are my loyal readers.. and I do thank you for reading and
exchanging your views on your own personal insight.

Anonymous,

First of all, this site is created to CREATE AWARENESS on the many
mis-conduct and un-ethical distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger.

Of course, with the so many case of re-fund that many are unable to claim
so as the many dirty tricks that up-line uses to bring in new recruits and
not FULLY INFORM the new recruits of the terms & conditions layed down,
we still cannot find a real good case against them.
Why?
Simple... agreement is there, and once any party signed, it is already said
that they are bound by the agreement.
To avoid this, we created this site, to show the people that, they must
look into all the details before joining, by looking at the past how people
suffered because of the small agreement stated in the sign-up form

Dexter and others, there is no need to argue, who is right and who is wrong.
We don't need to challenge these current distributors on what are the real
past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and OHK Associates.

What I've posted up here is more than suffice to tell others what are the
real past of DCHL/Lampe Berger and their current practices.

Going to court, is just a waste of time. For all you know, you might win the
case, but they will be telling you that, none of those who has been affected
didn't state their claims and so on.. thus leading them to victory.

Their legal terms & conditions are real true binding agreement that can be
used to avoid any legal matters. I've seen it, read it and even signed it.
Going through agan, I found out that, there is way no point for me to bring
my own personal matters with my up-lines to court because I know, I can't
win over them due to their legal terms & conditions stated.
Even my lawyer said, I would have a very slim chance to win, because I don't
have solid proofs and black & white agreement between me and my up-lines.

I've said enough.. I leave the rest to all of you..

worried pal : HELP!!

A worried pal asked me for help..
I do try my best as I could to assist..
So far, after his/her first mail, I've never receive anything more.
I shall post it up for you all to read and see if you can give any
CONSTRUCTIVE comments please..
I don't want flaming nor hate comments.. even if you have lots of them.

I would suggest that "Diplomacy is the best policy".

Shoot..!!
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Hi Lampe Berger Help,

my poor colleague had just invested 30K and quitting her promising full time job for LB. Do you have any story in mandarin, b'cos she is chinese educated cant read English.

I have heard a lot of bad experiences prior to visiting your website.
I am trying very hard to convince her that LB is not her cup tea but she and her boyfriend are so obsess that she borrowed 30K from her mother hard earn savings.

She told me that she is going to be a distributor in Muar, isn't she invested to be count?

Correct me if I am wrong, she says they promise 90% refund if she can't make it in 6 months,
has anybody successfully got their refunds?

Please advice on procedure on getting refunds.
Please advice me on how to convince her not to immerse further.

Regards,
worried pal
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Hie worried pal,

I am sure your friend has really been convinced with hard brainwashing or either she trust that upline of hers so that she invested.
Money can really move people, and it will make people make decision in rash.

Calvin, Steven.. can you guys help?
Calvin, you can write something up in chinese in your blog?
Or maybe take one of my blog's case and translate it to your site?

worried pal, if you have not notice or u might, there are two other blogs available.

http://antilampeberger.blogspot.com
http://lampblogger.blogspot.com

Re-fund, i would say.. near 50% of them who ask don't get it.
because of the UNSAID or UNTOLD agreement to the downline.
Make sure, the lamps that she is holding is re-fundable.
Signature lamps can't be re-funded so as promotional items.

Make sure she understands and read all the agreements.. as I know they are all in English..
Which would be a problem to her, since she don't know how to read English.

Re-fund can be done with a letter of intention to re-fund to the company, RZ Corporation.
I shall end here now and let you digest abit..

Hear from you soon.
I still yet to get a reply.

Rgds,
LB Help

This colour can see ah?

What about this?

Hmmmmm???

Am just playing around with colours.. Enjoyable abit ma..

Anonymous reader's comment

Internet at home is down, and well, there are so many post to write.
But I shall start off with this one. More to come...

One anonymous reader gave a comment on my previous post.
He might have his points there, but at certain points, I can't help
but reply him from this post itself. Mine will be in bold and italic

Read.. oh.. please bear with the language...
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there's cunning person in every industry,
what if u are a doctor today?A doc earns money too,in same he's not any good too.Some are even worse,selling mc,selling med at high price,lazy to consult patient...If it's that good,don't earn any profit.Or shall i judge you doctors, is a professional cheater?

Yes, in every industry there are un-ethical one and ethical ones. Please do stick to my main point of judgement in this blog. It is towards the many un-ethical ones in DCHL/Lampe Berger. I can even start a blog on un-ethical doctors, but no. Sorry, I haven't encounter any doctor where I need to pay them first and then receive consultation. Most of the visits are pay later.


What's wrong for Steven Yeam to donate?When some of u do nothing and talking about ppl?Are you guys earning anything by talking bullshit about ppl?But i'm sure of one thing.
Steven will thanks to those anti lampe berger because they 're u guys,he'll be laughing.
it's a secret where non ordinary can reveal. <- huh?

There is nothing wrong of Steven Yeam to donate. Oh, maybe those other readers who see it is wrong, but not wrong to me. Maybe a little more than RM 100k would be good for a self-made millionaire, or shall I say, soon-to-be billionaire. And we are here not talking bullshit about people, and we don't earn anything as stated on my exclusion clause at the bottom of the page. Please take time to read the whole website..!! Things stated here, are facts given by real people in real life who has the sense to think rationally.

Finally there's one more thing,lampe berger is not steven.Steven is not lampe berger.If u hate lampe berger, pls complain to the headquaters in France. Oh.. don't you worry, done that.

One more single thing i'll touch about is, refund. There's refund but with applied terms. There you go people!! READ!! Supermarket in uk have this term refund too.But do u think they'll refund easily.Of course NOT!!!

Hmm, we don't hate Lampe Berger. In fact, we hate those who spoils the name of Lampe Berger in this region.. and guess who holds the largest network in this region? ---> STEVEN YEAM!
And, I remember him saying, "Without you all, there is no SYN" So, there isn't a link?
You tell me anonymous!!

Who will refund to u in the way u are just trying for fun? Huh?But in DCHL yes. do refund if it's reasonable. it's a neutral point of view,believe good things is better than not to believe.
Because only from believe there are aeroplanes.

Oh, let me tell you. The main reason why people can't get their re-fund is because there are distributors who are un-ethical enough to treat their downlines like dumbshit and give them stocks that can't be return. What's worst is they neglected the term "responsibility" upon signing in new distributor under him/her.

Are you the ethical one or un-ethical one?

DCHL/Lampe Berger BAD EXPERIENCE

Sorry to keep u all waiting so eagerly, especially duke.. :p
Now, this person has gone through a lot more than what we all did.
I feel for his pain and his anger as well...
If, it would be me, I would be like Steven, running into the office
and shouting his name like crazy fella and ask him to return all my
money, and scold him cheater and so forth directly there itself.

Don't care the shotgun-held guard. My shotgun is bigger.. hahaha
But oh wellz, Diplomatic is the best policy.. so here goes the story

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Hi LB Help,

Thanks for sharing your story. My case was worse than yours. Like
loan-shark only. Anyway you should ask your upline to pay you back RM3k
from his own pocket because he cheated you. If he tries to put the blame
on you by saying you didn't work or whatever just say you don't care
because he took your stock and cheated you. You should ask him, ask his
family, continue to bug him... where does he live? I hate these kinda
people man.

My story is like this,

My upline took me to the LB office to listen to their marketting plan,
at that time I was the very first upline he approached and he sounded
very nice... caring... willing to help me do the business... he agreed
to lend me the capital of RM2xxx to start the business because I told
him I had not enough money to start and he told me that I can pay him
back only when I got the money from the business because he had faith in
me.

So oklor I was thinking what the heck man I pay a little but get the
stock from him which is worth even more... so okla I went to listen to
the thing and he told me ok pay him RM150 first he will lend me the rest
so I did lor... I paid him RM150.

After few days he came back and told me some reason he couldn't sign me
up la asked for RM600 instead... so oklor I gave him RM600 and then
continue going for the meetings and NDO and all that crap. Finally he
said his upline told him that uplines cannot lend money to downlines
because it's not allowed in their business so he asked me to fork out
RM2xxx lor.. and I was stuck because all my money was already with him
and he told me that he already used the money to register me as a buying
member. Later I found out it was fake because the money was with him all
the while. So I was stuck la.

I decided to use credit card to pay. I had cash but I needed the cash
for something else. Even then he asked me to use my cash and assured me
I could earn back my cash in time. Now I think about it, good thing I
didn't trust him otherwise I would not have any money left.

So okla I swiped card but he cheated me as well. As you know Counts are
allowed to sell their stock to their downlines but then they can only
accept cash right? He didn't tell me this fact either. No wonder he kept
telling me if can pay cash better la because paying by credit card would
be very inconvenient for him. And that also means I must take whatever
stock he has so I can't choose my oil or lamp. So I still swiped card at
the counter but then I didn't swipe it for my own product. He made me
swipe for RM2xxx worth of products which other uplines wanted to buy
from LB. I swiped and his uplines gave him the cash of RM2xxx for the
products which I have just swiped for.
The downside to this is, I do not have any receipt from LB for my
purchases so then I cannot return for my refund right? My receipt from
LB were for the products for his uplines which I had swiped my card for.
So I was stuck la how to refund?

So after that I felt very cheated coz of all these facts he was hiding
from me while he was asking me to go gather the cash. I feel very angry.

What can I do about this? I can give you my DHCL number but I need to
search for it coz I deleted and burned all my LB related stuff already.
If you want to know my upline I can provide you information about him.

Thanks.
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*no editing made :P except my name...*

Hey, I would love to bug him, but, I'm rather nice, and wait for the time to
make this whole matter big and thus not only him will face the concequences
but the whole team...

So, all my dear readers.. You've read and this is to me, the worst I've heard
so far since starting this blog..
I'm yet to hear any suicide case.. but I would never doubt it would never
happen in the near future...

YOUR SAY PEOPLE...

DCHL/Lampe Berger experience...

A reader sent in an e-mail, giving us his comment on his experience while
he was in DCHL for 2 years...

He has seen the bright side and choose rather not to continue his effort in
DCHL/Lampe Berger. Reason? It is a very personal reason for himself...

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Hi!

I'm here not to condemn anyone, just want to share my story....

I joined DCHL 2-3 years ago. Since I joined it, I became very positive thinking and aggresive in my life. Always thinking of becoming rich, thus having plenty of free time in the future and many many more which now I know these are all about bullshit dream.

Why would I joined DCHL? I believe everyone has their own dream to improve their live. They (members in DCHL) take this as a opportunity to stimulate our will to achieve it by persuading us to join DCHL, saying a lot of positive aspect and with the influences of other distributors of DCHL.
Finally I (or most of them) became confident and joined DCHL.........

After trying to put in effort for almost 2 years, I finally realised that to be successed in MLM is really not as easy as they said and very subjected to your own characterictic and of course luck also. For those who seems to be successed, actually is not. A lot of them is just pretend to be success and for those who as succeeded, we will never know the true story on how he did it although they keep on telling us the story of how he succeeded. What I want to say here is, they will never tell us the hidden cost and the 'dirty' way to do it.

I've not cheated by anyone in LB instead, I gained alot of friends. I didn't blame my sponsor because all of us is experiencing the same situation....he/she may also join DCHL for the same reason ==> influenced by others....

The influencing is very dangerous cause, something that's is not true, but with the influences of a big crowd may make us feel that it is good and true....

But fortunately, I awakened now and just concentrate on my work and trying to clear my debt (mosy of it from DCHL). Now I really know what is mean by ' 平淡是福 '........luckily is not too late......

So dear friends, please open up you eye before you make any decision to join MLM....MLM is not the only way to improve our life.....

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It is true that persuasion and influence from other distributors are the factors
making people believe that this whole system will work for them.
Thus, when "seeing is believing" struck their eyes, they too join the team.

This reader pointed out that "A lot of them is just pretend to be success"
Now, I wouldn't disagree with his point of view as it is proven to be true.
Showing off of BMW, act like they are earning 5-10K a month, when they
are actually not there yet.. How true his statement is..
I've actually been there and done that...
Now, looking back, I can only laugh at myself

It is good this reader has now awakened and concentrating on his work now.
Rather than some of the distributors in there keep on struggling, while they
are not making a stable income out of it. What hurts more is they leave their
conventional job and try to make a living "full-time" in DCHL/Lampe Berger.
Which to me is a big NO-NO. Why would you want to leave a job which give
you stable income monthly and opt for a job which does not?

Different people would have a different preference in their lifestyle.
Sometimes, it is just mankind in us that we want something that we don't
possess. When we are poor, we want to be rich. We don't have a BMW,
we want them. We are rich, we want to be richer. It is just us...

So, friends, distributors of DCHL/Lampe Berger, shall I re-quote again,
"MLM is not the only way to improve our life....."

*Thanks reader for the e-mail*

missing complaint? or not made known?

The Sun news 13th April 2006.

It is reported yesterday that, the highest complaints received by our
local complaints department is on Lucky Draws scheme, reported TheSun.

Now where is the percentage for "Direct Selling"? Or it is either clasified as "Recruitment Agencies" or "Others" under the Services???

Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry secretary-general Datuk Seri Talaat Hussain said complaints against such schemes and scams accounted for a quarter of the total 6,106 claims on goods and services filed with the Consumer Claims Tribunal last year.

In all, the tribunal received 1,515 claims against operators of such schemes, many of which were dubious.

"Some of the companies are not easy to identify due to the way they operate," he said.

"Some are not registered and even if they are, the contest they organised hinges between legal and illegal.

"And, most of those who have been cheated would not make a report, probably due to embarassment.

"But when there are reports, the tribunal will sit and deliver the necessary judgments."

"Some of the companies are not easy to identify due to the way they operate"
Well, you need to open your eyes wider and bigger Datuk!!...

And, most of those who have been cheated would not make a report, probably due to embarassment.
I do agree with this statement tho..

Now, why I put up this post?
Because I find it so similar to the problems many are facing with DCHL/Lampe Berger. Why not many would want to complaint, and also there are many too who don't even know where to go about..
I've post it up once here "Solutions to Re-Funds" one of the solutions...

There are still many ways to go about with this matter of un-ethical distributors and so forth on DCHL/Lampe Berger. Just like this brochure below..

Notice the numbers on the brochure?
It is the number of the Ministry of Domectic Trade and Consumer Affairs.
To COMPLAINT, call 03 - 4043 6888 or 03 - 4043 7888
TOLL-FREE NUMBER 1-800-886-800
Complaint about wat? What else?!!!

Maybe, they next time they publish another news in the near future, DCHL
will be listed there? haha

I shall let you all ponder on what our government say on Direct Selling or "Jualan Langsung" as well as Pyramid... pictures below..

Lampe Berger - Good,Bad,Ugly

Recently, saw 2 friends, both still a distributor in Lampe Berger.
One of them is challenging Marquis. Means, currently at the position of
Count and garnering sales to earn himself a Marquis position.
We talked abit, asking how each of us is doing.

We were once in the same team, but when things turn ugly=MONEY..
The big team split into two... it is a long story.. but to cut things short...
Once you let money carry you away, it will turn really ugly even for the
bestest friend of whom you are with will end.

He brought up the matter of the 2 team, we were both separated in 2 teams.
I told him, it is because of an un-ethical upline I have, I decided to stop.
Not because it can't be done, just NO WAY to un-ethical upline.
In a way, just me pursuing what I like to do in my career in life...

Well, he is not that pushy kind of person when I knew him last time.
Very energetic, and well mannered person, both of them. Maybe their
success is paying off because of their good deeds. Maybe.. who knows..

Talking about good deeds, anonymous reader pointed me to these two pics..

Well, I've known that Steven Yeam donated RM 100,000 to the Monfort
Boys Town expansion project even before it came to the news. That is a good
thing to do. I wonder how many Distributors are following his footstep.

What's more ugly is, even with his success, he fail to educate his people to be
a good ethical distributor and maintain an integrity in the business.

Even worst, with problems arising, he takes no concern at all, to solve it.
I would say, he is only success on the outside, but internally, he is not...
"Money" in DCHL/Lampe Berger makes one prevent each other to climb
in ranks... thus jeapordizing their friendship in the business... why?

I've seen it with my own eyes, and it just sucks..

Personally, I do respect Steven Yeam in person, just that, matters like this
that arises, it not dealt profesionally..

I do agree, that there are people who are making this whole "business" as
a living and I do wish them luck. What we here ask those successful ones
is to get rid of those bad apples in there.. that's all we ask.. justice to those
were once "cheated" by their un-ethical uplines, because the up-lines
wants to make quick buck by pulling more people in and thats all...

Lampe Berger's topic has been hot this few years and it is getting hotter.
Why they are so different from many other Direct Selling companies?
Why are some distributors are neglecting the DSAM Code of Conducts,
which is endorsed by Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.

There are even comments that MLM is Spoiled and Soiled.
Shall we draw our conclusion now? or shall we wait for the Ministry's Action
which we all know that will never come...?

Have we now a better understanding of LB yet? Guess not.. There are more..

LB Help, will not rest its blog, untill, there is no more matters of re-fund
or un-ethical distributors are heard..

People Con People for $$$.. ur say..

Ah Wai recently commented on most of our topics. A mere SPAM!
But, funny thing is, it is neither constructive nor understandable..
Maybe understandable at one point, Ah Wai is overshadowed with greed.

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Hello Everyone!!!,

I'm Ah Wai from MLM. Such a nice post from all of you :)

I admit sometimes the MLMers always use this kind of tactic of luring "potential" people into their business. Eg. N-stream, Synergy, Herbalife, Lampeberger, Amway, Diamond, eCosway, IMagic, NuSkin, CNI and etc.

I'm also ex-anti MLMer just like you all. Proud to be antiMLMers. "MLM is conbusiness" and "StudioTraffic is PONZI SCHEME!" Hehehe... :)

But, AT LAST i realise in this World of Events..."Capitalism"

EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE OR PEOPLE CON YOU...you choose!

Sami Vellu, politicians, MPSJ, MPPJ, MBI, dato, datuks, Thaksin, Arroyo, Suharto, *me* and etc also CONNING people $$$ only what...

I only take little con $$$ while the *people mentioned above* CON the "rakyat" & taxpayer's $$$ BIG TIME! SO what is the FUSS?

I con my lecturer before, i cheat on my exam before, i Ponteng class before, i cheated during SNOOKER, i cheated my fren before, hell i even con my GF before. Hahaha. What is the BIG FUSS?

As i say, EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE or PEOPLE CON YOU...Its a survival skill!

Its better for us, "the little guy with no $$$" to con little $$$, than "the BIG SHOT GOVERNMENT officials" to con the rakyat $$$.

RIght?

I'm DAMN sure the GOvernment DOn't MIND this little $$$ one.

AIyah, we group together as a group of "hardcore anti-lampeberger", then we charge those people who is also "anti-lampeberger" RM 100 each. Then, we also make LOTS of $$$.

Simple calculation,

RM 100 x 10,000 member (ANTI-LAMPEBERGER) = RM 1,000,000!!!!

Then, we BUY Ferrari and BMW to drive to Menara HLA, park at the FRONT and BURN them. This we show that we also can make $$$ ma!!!

DAMN good IDEA...!!!

WE group together ok...WE KEEP in touch! Malaysia BOLEH!

Remember, my name is AH Wai from SYN DCHL Lampeberger :)
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Ah Wai, your comment has showed us why we Malaysians can't even go
further, and why success can only be found in MLM for some people.

You potrayed that "EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE or PEOPLE CON YOU" is rather disturbing. The country or the world will be much better with people thinking like you are lesser.

What becomes of our Malaysian Government today is mainly because there are people like you in the system. Sad to say but true.

To con people is a person's will, and you have chose to follow that path, and that is the sad. People are greedy and you for example are one of them. But are you willing to change?

Our government are not willing to change regardless of how many complaints there is. But, if there is a chance for you to change, WILL YOU? Guess not..

Surviving in this "Capitalization" world you said, is not about conning other people. It is how you adapt to it, and how you work the smart way and in an ETHICAL manner.

For you Ah Wai, you are just one of the un-ethical, spoilt apple in the system
of DCHL/Steven Yeam Network.

And the earning money system you simply proposed. Doesn't work for us.
Thanks but NO THANKS.

I leave others to comment on your above comments/SPAM on this blog.

Lampe Berger Issue all around...

Lampe Berger Issue is everywhere, even whem I met two of my friends today separately in different time. The issue brought up was the same problem just like how this person below e-mail in to voice out. But, there are more than the issue of re-fund itself, which we here in LB Help will focus abit rather than the un-ethical uplines problems. Here goes the mail..

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Dear Steven & LB Help,

After seeing all your blogs and Brand Malaysia blog, I think it is something that we should bring to the attention of the weaker mind of what this LB is all about. I attach below a story of LB which surrounds my friends and I since the LB things began spreading. I would appreciate if you keep my name anonymous. LB Help: Will do.

The story goes like this...

A friend of mine,AK joined Lampe Berger after some approach from another
friend of ours. AK borrowed some money (heard it's a 4 figure amount) from his girlfriend to invest in LB, even with his study loan unpaid. It's been almost 2 years since he joined. All our friends that I come across had been approached by him to join LB and seen him like a repellant.

Another friend, KV who was persuaded by him to joined, regretted. He told me that he felt he was conned by his best friend (AK) to fork out money using his mum's hard earn RM2,345. Since then, KV got less than half of his money back, quitted LB, hated and doesn't talk to AK since.

Recently, AK's girlfriend, CS of 5 years who lives together with him suddenly decided to leave KL and go work in Singapore, not breaking up with him but just to work there for more pay. We (AK's friends) were puzzled. Hence we approached her on her decision.

It was a sad story. She explained to us that since AK stopped his permanent job and joined LB full-time since 2 years ago, she is the only person that is the primary breadwinner. She has to pay for the rent of the apartment and most expenses at home. All AK could earn is from the freelance job that he do once or twice in a month.

CS who earns RM3,000 a month wasn't able to save any money from this salary considering that she still have a car installment to pay every month. Hence, 6 months ago she started looking for other company that would be able to offer her more somewhere in KL. She found a better offer. Best of all, she request and got the offer for AK to become a Junior Photographer, a higher ranking and higher pay in the same company. AK rejected the offer even without thinking.

CS was disappointed. Hence she job hunt for work in Singapore and got other offers. We also heard from CS that the money she borrow AK to invest in LB was her savings for their future home. She doesn't mind if AK would want to pursue his dream to get rich through LB. But AK wouldn't even want to at least contribute to their small living by accepting a permanent job that knock on his door.

When AK as CS on her reason to work in Singapore, CS would just say, "Can you afford a life right now?" It's not that CS is a big spender or anything. She's the most understanding and thrifty girl I've met. She never expected AK to return the money he borrowed or give her a good life, but just a normal life that they used to have even when he have to work 18 hours a day, with enough money to eat, watch movie and occasionally buy some stuff.

When we asked AK how does he feel since CS has to go, his reply was, "I'm going to put all my time in LB so that I can start to earn 4 figures and pick her back from Singapore next year".

Little does he know, CS decision to leave was a hard one for her because it's also the first step of their breaking up process as she had told us...


A lesson to all out there who is interested to join LB. Yes, there are people who gain and got wealthy because of it, but how many are there who got rich compare to those who joined and never got rich? Yes, they can drive a BMer, but do you think they still can pay for the installment 3 or 5 years down the road by using the money they earn in LB? If you come from a rich family, it is alright to get burnt with RM30k. But if you are not from a rich family, don't ever think of joining LB thinking that it is a "Get Rich Quick" scheme. Nothing comes easy in the world. Nothing comes free. You will end up with even more debt in the end.

If you think that by spending RM30k to join LB with your own hard earn money and lose it, then it's your own problem. But if you have to borrow RM30k to join LB, then you must think of your social responsibilities to your friends and family.

p/s: Pardon me for having to keep all the name anonymous. Afterall, it's other people's family problem, we are not fit to critic but only to bring the sense to others out there.

LB Help: As promised
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Look how such problem can ruin a good relationship and I remember someone asking when is the last time anyone buys a gift to their love ones.

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Let the game begins...

Mack Zulkifli, one of Malaysia's known blogger made a post on Lampe Berger.

In his blog, "Lampe Berger: A catastrophe in the maing?" talked about
how a mother face a daugther who turns ugly when she(the daugther) is not
granted a loan of RM30k to put into the business of DCHL/Lampe Berger.

Quoting from his blog what the mother told him,

"She went into vivid details about how her daughter had pestered the family for RM30k, and after a huge fight, left the house fuming, claiming that she will be a prostitute to earn the money, and after that will be 'richer than papa' and return home to spit on their faces."

Now, this is really a troubled one.
How can she do that?
I mean, what makes the daughter reacts like this to the mother?
Certainly, we are not blaming Lampe Berger.
Maybe the "money" that she sees in Lampe Berger motivates her to act like
that to her parents?
Maybe the soon to be upline question the support of her parents?

It is sad to hear that there are still many casses going on. Also on another
topic by Mack, "Lampe Berger/SYN:Calls for investigation pours in"
This post is a good read where Adrian Oh, one reader posted his case
of how his brother is being pulled into this scheme.

Mack's blog has ganer an interest of broadcast and print media to get
more information of this matter. Lampe Berger Help will do our part
in supporting all the infos needed by the media.

There are also blogs sprouting up to feature this piece of news.
Eathinc in his podcast saying that his father actually called up the Ministry
of Consumer Affair to complain. Am sure more will do the same.

More links to read...
Suanie: of lampe berger and mlm
Suanie blogs about her conversation with her friend who is a distributor
of Lampe Berger and does the business base on selling not recruiting.
Wonderful!.. Now we know that there are a handful ethical ones there.

Autoworld Forum
For your reading pleasure :)

Scorkes: Why Lampe Berger is spelt S-C-A-M
Was confronted and shown the plan of Lampe Berger and walk off
when she found something amiss..

So? What's next?
Let the game begins!! We shall see in no time, it will be all over the
news, both print and broadcast...

Our e-mail is lampebergerhelp@blogspot.com give us a mail :)

No Solid Foudation of Business...

One poor soul joined DCHL/Lampe Berger after much persuasion from
his friend. Was told that investment can be returned even if he is just
a "Franchise" status. Now he regrets his for believing his friend.
He just wasted RM 2345, hopefully, not his friendship too...

Mail received on 3rd April 2006, 3:47pm
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I joined LB after 4 months of persuation from my friend. He told me that
there is 90% refund even if i am just a franchisee, and he also paid the
money for me first to join. At first, he never tell me about investing 30k to
be a count. By the way, i am under syn network. in the group, everybody
was asking me when i wanna invest 30k, go and borrow or what lah.

I think they have used the wrong technique in doing this network marketing.
They only want to be rich fast, drive bmw, etc. but at the end of the days, all
are dead. So many people returned their stocks of which they invested in
count level. I also heard that marquise for the past 3 years are no longer now.
Get rich fast and also die fast. To me, this is a no no. There is no solid
foundation of the business at all.

All the young people with no business experience wanna get rich fast and
show off. I on the other hand waster rm2345. really regret.. regret...

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True business minded people with true business background would
see that there is totally no business foundation at all in DCHL.
Yes true, they are running a direct selling company where everyone
is a distributor. But the meaning of "Distributor" is being exploited as
"recruiter". So, you call that selling? or recruiting? in DCHL/Lampe Berger

Real solid business is where there is a transaction in items and cash value.
That is not seen in DCHL/Lampe Berger because the transaction is a mere
purchase of stock to be part of the distributor of the company. Not an
interest to purchase the items.

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