A Refund Experience with DCHL

Picking up from the previous letter post...

This is the email I received from this lady about 2 weeks after...
If you are thinking of taking your refund with DCHL/RZ Corporation/Lampe Berger.
Read on what this lady has to say... This is all at her own decision and all at her own
way of getting the refund back... Learn from her courage...

Hi ,

I already went to DCHL to get our refund yesterday.. we told our upline (our colleague) that we're quitting n he was a bit shocked.. maybe he thought we're waiting him to assist us in refunding our stocks..

but what we did was we went straight to the front desk of DCHL n asked the lady about refund.. so she asked whether we have filled in any forms yet? of course not.. she asked how long we have been in this biz.. we told her 2 months.. she asked how many wants to refund do we told her 3 (including my sis, she's my sponsored downline).. so she straight away gave us 3 refund forms to fill in and told us to get back to her once we finished completing the form..

after completing the form, we got back to her and get our no.. we waited for a while and our turn comes.. we need to make an appointment to refund our stocks.. only my sis's account was terminated that day since her stocks was sponsored by me (a franchisee can sponsor 1 franchisee).. so her account was self-terminated.. me and my boyfriend's appointment was arranged to another date..

so when it comes to the appointed date, we went to DCHL with our stocks to be refunded.. but unfortunately, only my account was terminated and got the refund.. my bf's account was advised not to be terminated since when they did the calculation, he only can get back RM1000+ from RM12000+ he invested.. why? becos of the stocks that he received was not returnable..

he received 3 lampes that worth RM1700+ each.. we used 2 of it n the other one we switched with our upline cos he only have 1 lampe in his stock.. so we exchange stocks with the same price.. all the used lampes are not returnable.. there were also short of essential oils that we have already used during the 2 months we're in this biz.. those 3 lampes alone costs us RM4000+ plus a few bottles of oils that we used.. the guy at the counter advised us not to terminate this account cos it is not worth it.. luckily this guy advised us not to terminate the stocks.. so we're thinking in selling those goods to Cash Converters since we once seen a signature lampe sold there.. maybe we can redeem what we lost..

as for my account, i only get RM2300+ from RM3000+ i invested.. i was short of 1 lampe (RM200+), 2 essential oils and an estebel toner.. plus the 10% admin cost (RM250+).. so i lost about RM700+.. that's a lot too.. now we can only refund our stocks in 3months after our registration.. not 6months.. so better hurry for those who wants to quit this..

so, as from my experience.. my advise are:

1. think clearly before joining this biz.. r u prepared to use all your leisure n relax time to do this..

2. do not be too excited with all the wealth they tell u.. i believe this biz can help u to achieve all your dreams but be prepared to sacrifice your time with your family, your loved ones n even for yourself.. u might lost some of your buddies from school/uni/work who doesn't like MLM (those who u invite to this biz as prospects)

3. see the biz in its pros and cons.. everything have its pros and cons.. judge yourself whether u can do this or not and do get consultation from those who are close to u (family members, close friends, gf, bf, etc) before joining this.. do not make your own decision without any consultation cos sometimes, we didn't see what others see.. every perspective counts..

4. if u are still eager to do this biz even your close ones (esp family) object your decision, PLEASE do not make it as a reason they are stopping u from achieving your dreams.. they are thinking for your best.. i heard so many stories about SYN members who doesn't go back to their home becos of their family are not supporting them.. don't forget they will never abandon u when you're in trouble.. not your SYN partners..

i really hope people can see how we see this biz.. we're not against this biz from the very beginning but once we're in the biz, we saw the flaws of the biz.. i believe MLM can help us but the people in MLM are doing it in the wrong way.. everyone can be easily attracted in easy money they portray but make some research and analysis first before joining this..

so friends, if u're thinking of quitting, act fast.. u don't have to wait for your uplines cos it's your decision since it's YOUR OWN BIZ.. be firm with your decision and don't feel sorry for your uplines cos they are your friends.. be sorry for yourself first cos nobody can help u accept yourself.. our upline seems a bit "far" from us since we told him we're quitting though he said he would like us to stay as friends.. we're open and always keep him as our friend..

anyway.. u can share our experience in your blog.. i allow u to publish this anonymously.. thanks for your thoughts.. hope to hear from u soon..


Rgds,
(name cleared)

Now, gain some knowledge here? I'm sure you did...
Till the next one... Cheers People!

The Problem Lies with the Upline...

Now, many wants to quit MLM. This lady wants to quit because of her upline...
I got this email long time ago and I would like to publish it here for your reading...
You ought to gain some knowledge here...

i joined SYN with my bf 2months back..our colleague introduced this biz 2 us..we felt it was a good opportunity during that time since i was so troubled at work..maybe it was our way out..

we met all those SYN members n they convinced us..they help us applying 4 loans n crdt cards so that we can invest 4 the count position..luckily we didn't get the 14k loan each from bank islam..if that happened..we'll be buried with debts now..

finally..after applying from various banks, we only got a few..i got 4k from citibank n 5k from hong leong bank..as for my bf, he got 4k from cimb, 5k from hong leong n 4k from citibank..he then registered as baron n i registered as a franchisee under him..

See how they encourage you apply loans and apply credit cards just to join?

at first we were active joining the events..from work we head straight 2 HLA..got back home late at nite n d next morning need 2 go 2 work which was so tiring!sometimes i neglected my work n pissed off my boss cos my works r not progressing...

then we started 2 slow down since both of us got datelines 2 catch 4 our projects (FYI,we are engineers..)..then our upline started 2 sms us asking 2 join events..we told him we were busy..but he still keep pushing us n it became so annoying n irritating..he's a count now n targeting 4 challenging marquis in d near time..

then i had 2 go 4 outstation 4 a few days n he still asking us 2 join events..until 1 day during my outstation he sms me..quoting: "bagitau alif(not my bf's actual name) datang event malam ni..event ni penting utk partner baru..suruh dia datang..kalau kau nak dia berjaya la.." it pissed me off when he said kalau kau nak dia berjaya la..as if he's d only one who succeeded in this world..this made me lost my appetite 2 go on with this biz..we already losing our heart in this n this became the X-factor 4 us 2 quit this..

we're planning 2 quit n get our refund but we're not sure of d procedures whether 2 go straight 2 d counter or need d presence of our upline..your blog shows a way 2 refund by writing a letter..is it a must?

i like 2 share some reasons we're quitting apart from our prob with our upline..

1. during d 1st event we joined (b4 we become a partner), we heard about our upline paying tickets 4 us 4 that event(duke sharing)..we were quite shocked though it only costs rm5 per tix but it did brought up a few doubts n a bit confused..what they said was SYN members don't mind sharing stories n tips 2 help other partners n SYN members..that they r like families..but when it comes 2 n event (DUKE SHARING for God sake!), y must we pay??isn't 1 of their success secret was sharing?they said sharing is caring but y must we pay 4 a sharing event by a DUKE which make 6 figures income per month??they can share it 4 free 2 help new partners..n if their reason is 2 book place 4 d event as it is limited seats, y don't they juz use 1st come 1st serve basis?it doesn't make any sense..those dukes r still making money from d new partners who still need 2 pay 4 other things n struggling in their financials..n u can do the maths..even rm5 sounds small per person,calculate it when at least 50 people join d event..rm5 x 50 = rm250..they earn easy money 4 a two-hour-talk on their experience which they kept repeating it over n over again...

2. i'm a muslim..on my 1st monthly members' gathering (MMG), Arch Duke Steven Yeam gave his high motivated speeches..honestly..i enjoy listening 2 his talks n respect him..but what concerns me was when he was invited to b on stage by d emcees, all d applause came n then once he's on stage, their way of welcoming him on stage was shaking hands n hugged each other (kinda arabic style)..it doesn't seem harmful but when seeing 1 of d emcee (a malay girl, marquis, wearing tudung!) shaking hands n hugging with him on stage, it made me think..if i'm a marquis 1 day, i'll b doin d same thing n it's not appropriate n not what muslim women should do..can i prevent this happening 2 me?

3. they also said that we ONLY have 2 pay rm2345 2 b a franchisee n that's all..but they didn't mention about paying 4 every event!d most expensive event was NDO - new distributor orientation which costs us rm150 per person..i can reason out on paying 4 this event cos it was held in hotels..we pay 4 the breakfast, lunch n facilities..but 4 events in d biz center, y must we pay??

4. i also realize that this biz can be too "ambitious" in chasing our dreams..sometimes we forgot that rezeki comes from Him..but if we're too preoccupied with this, we sometimes tend 2 forget Him..sometimes we were so excited about this n forgot or maybe quite late in doing our responsibilities towards Him..sometimes my solat are so near 2 d end of its time n it's not good..i don't want it 2 continue cos i know without His permission n blessings, nothing works out..n i want my afterlife 2 b better than what i have here..wealth is not everything n doesn't mean anything if we forget our creator..

5. i'm in doubt whether this MLM biz is halal or haram..i don't want 2 feed my family with d wrong source..so it's better 2 prevent this cos i'm in doubt..

so for those who have experience quitting this n got refund, pls give me a guide in solving my prob..ur info will b very helpful n i thank u in advance..may God bless all of us n hope people will wake up n see what we saw in this biz..

thanks 4 ur time..

You judge... I'm not saying MLM can't do.. But sometimes.. it all lies with the leader..
You get bad leaders, you don't go nowhere...
Don't give me the bull of you need to stand on your own and what not...
More of a time, you can't stand alone here because the support needs to come from the top.
This is a fast roll game and you are slow, you are really slow and when you are fast is when you have good and greater support from the top and all...

I have already guide her with her refund.. nothing much but it helps...