tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post114406100227604298..comments2023-10-30T18:55:06.799+08:00Comments on Lampe Berger Help: No Solid Foudation of Business...Lampe Berger Helphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14366095018441016328noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1153637206638334602006-07-23T14:46:00.000+08:002006-07-23T14:46:00.000+08:00can u explain what's MLM?I think every direct sale...can u explain what's MLM?I think every direct sales also using the same system or same theory to run their business right?Then i would like that why you all only repel Lampe Berger?what about others direct selling company?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1145118596066219122006-04-16T00:29:00.000+08:002006-04-16T00:29:00.000+08:00I have just sent an e-mail to that address. I need...I have just sent an e-mail to that address. I need help too, I was cheated by my upline in a very 'smart' way and I don't think anyone of you here would have fallen into such a deceiving trap as mine. Mine was worse than loan-shark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144591247480055082006-04-09T22:00:00.000+08:002006-04-09T22:00:00.000+08:00wyeling,If your friend need more help, e-mail me u...wyeling,<BR/><BR/>If your friend need more help, e-mail me us lampebergerhelp@gmail.com.<BR/><BR/>We will try our best to assist your friend. This thing cannot be pro-long and this blog is created to help people with re-fund case with Lampe Berger.<BR/><BR/>We will live up to our words while we try our best.Lampe Berger Helphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14366095018441016328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144588072179330142006-04-09T21:07:00.000+08:002006-04-09T21:07:00.000+08:00one of my best friends was cheated to join LB for ...one of my best friends was cheated to join LB for 30k. thy borrowed 18k so tht she pushes up her upline to marquis. the problem now is, she has 2 weeks more before a 6months is up. she wans to quit but her uplines hv delayed her for more thn 2 months. i heard tht if she quits it will affect the uplines position. really pity her coz she's goin no where, in debt n getting no refund as her uplines will not let her quit? wht hpn to the 6months return policy. <BR/><BR/>IT'S A SCAM! SCAM! & MAJOR BIG TIME SCAM!Wyeling, LIMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879529548589775798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144337280770517832006-04-06T23:28:00.000+08:002006-04-06T23:28:00.000+08:00it's either u screw up with ur upline friend, or u...it's either u screw up with ur upline friend, or u screw up with ALL ur friends!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144255129314022982006-04-06T00:38:00.000+08:002006-04-06T00:38:00.000+08:00hi anonymous above,Well, you screw up the relation...hi anonymous above,<BR/><BR/>Well, you screw up the relationship with your upline, it's inevitable.<BR/><BR/>But the nature of the biz, is such that it will collapse soon. <BR/><BR/>It's a good thing to get out fast.Steven Yiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12244926368489029511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144229514833001432006-04-05T17:31:00.000+08:002006-04-05T17:31:00.000+08:00I manage to refund for my franchisee stocks but no...I manage to refund for my franchisee stocks but not included the lamp that cost me more than half of the RM2345, anyway still a refund better than none but screw up with my upline friend, what to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144222004098550242006-04-05T15:26:00.000+08:002006-04-05T15:26:00.000+08:00Network Marketing is similar to MLM.Direct Selling...Network Marketing is similar to MLM.<BR/><BR/>Direct Selling could be regarded similar as well, if it is not being exploited to run like MLM.<BR/><BR/>Oh well..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144220575906672642006-04-05T15:02:00.000+08:002006-04-05T15:02:00.000+08:00andrew said... yeah, shake legs and ur BMW will mo...andrew said... <BR/><BR/>yeah, shake legs and ur BMW will move on its own for you. <BR/>==================================<BR/><BR/>hehe... i like this...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144209515460522732006-04-05T11:58:00.000+08:002006-04-05T11:58:00.000+08:00I agree on the "get rich fast" pov. They promise m...I agree on the "get rich fast" pov. They promise me I could afford to buy LV bags and drive SLKs in just a year's time if I join their plan. <BR/>Yeah, right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144209332641926202006-04-05T11:55:00.000+08:002006-04-05T11:55:00.000+08:00Isnt LB network marketing, and not direct selling?...Isnt LB network marketing, and not direct selling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144200517170263632006-04-05T09:28:00.000+08:002006-04-05T09:28:00.000+08:00I would say, if you want to be involve in Direct S...I would say, if you want to be involve in Direct Selling, make sure it is a direct selling. Not MLM! Not Recruitment..<BR/><BR/>I am in a Direct Selling company now... which I was showed how much I can earn by just recruiting..<BR/>Nope, I am totally against recruiting.<BR/><BR/>The only people who joins under me are willing friends who wants to earn some nice income selling products. Simple as that. I never asked. They asked to join. ;)<BR/><BR/>Because, by just selling the products WITH a good result from the products, who wouldn't buy.<BR/><BR/>Tho, it may be small in number at first, they will be your long term customer.<BR/><BR/>This is what I call Direct Selling.<BR/><BR/>True that what you sell, the person above you also earns. Same as the working world, people above you earns more than you earn. What's the diff.? <BR/><BR/>I do think Direct Selling is a good business to involve with, in which when it is done in the correct way.<BR/>NOT MLM, NOT RECRUITMENT!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144148494422041412006-04-04T19:01:00.000+08:002006-04-04T19:01:00.000+08:00doh, All MLM agents, at one point or another, use ...doh, <BR/><BR/>All MLM agents, at one point or another, use the expression "goyang kaki and money comes in" and from this it forms the basis of my piece of advice, "there's no free lunch"<BR/><BR/>==================================<BR/><BR/><BR/>some will add, of course u will have to work hard and find prospects in the first place before u reach that level. only then u can goyang kaki.<BR/><BR/>so what's the difference from doing any other businesses or working for someone? u still have to find customers if u do your own business, exoand it and become a strong company. U still have to work like a dog before getting to climb the corporate ladder before becoming a MD/CEO. <BR/><BR/>Dont anybody noticed that in MLMs, u still have to recruit ppl in order to climb the levels? is that a business in true sense? business involves selling of a service or a product where u profit from it.<BR/><BR/>oh well, then some will argue, selling of such marketing plan is already considered a business. marketing plan is a service, selling of ideas, they said.<BR/><BR/>but is it? a business and sales transaction should generate goodwill and value, for both parties of transactions, and for the economy as a whole.<BR/><BR/>what do u get by selling dreams and empty promises? ok, one ppl get money, and some ppl lose money. what do uplines get? commissions(money). what do downlines get after paying rm2.5k? some fragrance, instructions to gather more downlines and advice to work hard and invest more to level-up.<BR/><BR/>business? so where the heck is the difference between working ur arse off to gather downlines compared to looking for customers? oh i know. the empty promise of wealth beyond ur wildest dreams while sitting around shaking legs. <BR/><BR/>yeah, shake legs and ur BMW will move on its own for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144136596127254932006-04-04T15:43:00.000+08:002006-04-04T15:43:00.000+08:002345 is a small amount to lose, 30k is alot to LOS...2345 is a small amount to lose, 30k is alot to LOSE! i myself have quit after 3 months of joining for 2345 and am walking the path that normal people walk. I have a story myself and will share this with you all once im free to write to you~ So wait up for what i've got installed for you all and i will help the innocents like you all did here! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144124630443018772006-04-04T12:23:00.000+08:002006-04-04T12:23:00.000+08:00Steven, lose money.. can earn back.. RM 2345 is ha...Steven, lose money.. can earn back.. RM 2345 is hard RM 30,000 even harder.<BR/>Took your dad how many years heh.. <BR/><BR/>Andrew, true.. we have to go through hell just to pay back what we owe others..<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, most of the upline marquis would say, "Hey, we also invested RM30K and we never give up trying till we find back the money here."<BR/><BR/>I just rather keep quite than to shut him up..<BR/><BR/>Free Lunch, No Free Lunch, the fact remains the same..<BR/><BR/>THERE ARE UN-ETHICAL PEOPLE IN LB AND THE WAY THEY ARE DOING DIRECT SELLING IS TOTALLY WRONG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144120490631249842006-04-04T11:14:00.000+08:002006-04-04T11:14:00.000+08:00if he's expecting free lunch, he would not have in...if he's expecting free lunch, he would not have invested RM2345.<BR/><BR/>looks like everyone is using the wrong advise.<BR/><BR/>ppl in mlm KNOW that THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH OR EASY LUNCH, that's why they look at other opportunity.<BR/><BR/>is mlm a free lunch? absolutely NOT! you have a price to pay. you need perseverance, you need little investment, you need time, you need patient, you need hardwork.<BR/><BR/>no one in mlm is expecting free lunch. all know it's all about hardwork, only ppl in lb thought that they can earn quick money. that also they know it's not free lunch. they have a price to pay.<BR/><BR/>the right advise would be, beware of mlm scam. like lb, quite obvious is a scam. so next time, don't just follow what ppl say. think! first. and give the right advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144118988770774392006-04-04T10:49:00.000+08:002006-04-04T10:49:00.000+08:00it's ur own money u lose.at least it's better than...it's ur own money u lose.<BR/><BR/>at least it's better than losing someone else's money, money that u dont own. money that u have to repay (read: bank loan, ah long, etc)<BR/><BR/>take it as ur tuition fee for life lesson #8 : There's no free lunch in this world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144115247997767612006-04-04T09:47:00.000+08:002006-04-04T09:47:00.000+08:00look on the bright side's suicide,lost eyesight I'...look on the bright side's suicide,<BR/>lost eyesight I'm on your side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144114636907399292006-04-04T09:37:00.000+08:002006-04-04T09:37:00.000+08:00yeah, you're right. i also lost rm2345. not a lot ...yeah, you're right. i also lost rm2345. not a lot of money but still my own money from my own savings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144112194641224432006-04-04T08:56:00.000+08:002006-04-04T08:56:00.000+08:00how can i not agree with you?you are absolutely ri...how can i not agree with you?<BR/><BR/>you are absolutely right...it's their strategy...<BR/><BR/>they will ask you to join as franchisee...then you'll attend NDO...and everyone will tell you...at the office...no more franchisee lahhh...all are count...baron got few lah...but no more franchisees around...<BR/><BR/>am i right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23023993.post-1144073706047819602006-04-03T22:15:00.000+08:002006-04-03T22:15:00.000+08:00Look at the bright side,You didnt waste your time,...Look at the bright side,<BR/><BR/>You didnt waste your time, you didnt put 30k.<BR/><BR/>Cheer up. Lose money, can earn back.Steven Yiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12244926368489029511noreply@blogger.com